cammedws6

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I have a cammed and full bolt on m6 2000 trans am. i'm thinking of throwing on an sts rear mount as well. this is one kit that i found below. What else would i need to buy with it besides gauges? Is it worth it? Will this end up killing my motor? Is there some where i could buy it cheaper as well? Thanks guys.

http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/STS...S15798/580113/

kaotic_ws6

it doesnt say what all it has, but youll need injectors if it doesnt come with them and a tune, it will be worth it when you build your motor to make alot of power. and it wont kill your motor unless you feed it to much boost. and i wouldnt go with the cheapest you can find because in the end you get what you pay for IMHO. good luck.... some of these other guys will give you alot more info

nastyiroc

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XtremeDime

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Could pull off a front mount setup for cheaper, and would probably be happier in the long run.

transammiller

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do it right the first time. either turbo headers or truck manifolds. i'd recommend truck manifolds though as they are CHEAP!!! headers will cost around 1k for a good set.

HydroStream6

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I've done it both ways. Sts for four years and now my own custom front mount. The sts setup got me to 10.4 so you really can't knock it. If you have the fabrication skills then a front mount is better. But for the average Joe the sts is a decent option.

ttranssam

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I've heard of tons of sts problems, but since I've started my front mount build I now say I can't be any worse problems then what I'm dealing with. So I say do it, at least when you have to fix something ur not stuck working under a cramped hood!

I do think a front mount looks way cooler though...

TurboAv

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My two cents is to make your own rear mount kit. For a good shop to build one it should come out a lot cheaper than buying the STS crap. STS uses small piping going to the turbo and small cold side piping. Their PCV setup is a joke. Their oil scavenge pump likes to fail also. So buy your own stuff. An ebay intercooler also works great. Depending on your power goals and what turbo you choose run a 2.5" or 3" to the turbo and 3" or 3 1/2" for the coldside. Shurflo makes a decent scavenge pump for around $100. If you do your own the piping can be tucked up higher than what STS does.

All that being said if I had a Camaro or Trans-Am I would do a front mount kit. I really don't have that option with my GTO without doing custom everything. Good luck with whatever you decide.

transammiller

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if i just had to do a rearmount (and it would take a very large weapon poited right at my pecker to make me do so) i would have to agree with the above comment. rearmounts never work the same in more than one car so it would be best to have a shop fab one up for you. use 2.5" for the hotside to increase velocity and heat energy and 3" or 3.5" for the cold side. i've heard mixed review about the shurflo but i know a damn good pump built by TurboWerx.

fstr n u

I have an STS setup, tanked my engine quickly after install and startup. Not sure if there were initial issues with bad pistons. Had some oiling issues from the get go - chalk that up to a bad install.

What i can tell you about STS, is they have stellar customer service. If you need anything they are at your beck n call.

I would think that with most forced induction installs, that at very least before you knock out your #7 piston or ring, look at upgrading the rods, pistons and rings. Crank is good for over 1000hp crank.

Get some 60 lb injectors, get the intercooler, research methanol injection and have some fun.

My STS when i had one good run, felt absolutely incredible and sounded awesome. I've been in fast cars, but when boost kicks in (front or rear mount), hang on, quite a different experience from a naturally aspirated feel.

elias_799

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i would say No, get a front mount

TurboAv

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Shurflo is a good option if you don't have the $350 to spend on the Turbowerx.

transammiller

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yeah you're right. save your money and get the shurflo but you may wanna keep an extra grand or so on the side when your turbo starts puking oil and your motor gets killed

TurboAv

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Any scavenge pump can fail. I was thinking on doing two Shurflo pumps in parallel and having one be a standby pump that would kick on if the other lost power or lowered in flow. I haven't checked out to see if there are any flow switches I could use yet. For sure I could wire it up to start one on a loss of power. Plus having two LED's on the dash to show both pumps status. If the LED lights ever switch, you just lost the primary pump.

transammiller

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while that is a very put thought out contingency but i honestly feel that spending a little more to get the peace of mind that a proven, positive displacement type gerotor type pump will provide.

kaotic_ws6

i have a sts kit, any tips or stuff i should look out for? i think i had a tad bit of oil in my intercooler piping.. what is that a sign of?

transammiller

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compressor side oil seal leakage. oiling and boost leaks are the killers in the rearmount setup

COPO9560

If you want a turbo, front or rear, you will have to pretty much toss your new full bolt on exhaust system & headers. STS does not recommend headers - loose too much heat. As you already have $$ sunk in these items, have you considered a Procharger?

transammiller

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i agree. a D1 or P1 will be a great choice since you already have the headers and exhaust built. just bolt it on and add fuel and tune it. you're gonna love the grunt of a supercharger but turbos pull WAY harder

darooke

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That is normal blow bye. You can help eliminating it with a catch can.