87 IROC with a Magnum t-70
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87 IROC with a Magnum t-70
Ok, so here goes! I have spent the last couple of years slowly buying the parts that I will need for the build of my 1987 IROC hard top. I have been seeing all if the amazing power numbers out of the LS based engines on here and tech. I have seen alot of cars with 500+ HP with heads, cam, and intake. But I just don't see the need to spend this kind of money when I think I can get the same or better results with a T-70 turbo setup on a basically stock motor.
So that is what I am going to do. I just ordered my turbo components today, they were the last on the long list of parts to buy.
I'm not sure if I want to lower the car yet, I want to see what it looks like (how it sits) with the motor in it. Since I bought the car 5-6 yrs. ago without a motor and trans. has been just sitting in storage. And I have been collecting parts ever since.
So this is the plan, and I will be documenting with pic.s as the build comes together.
The car just came out of the paint shop, now she has a fresh coat of arctic white with gold SS stripes (which it had from the factory), I will post pic.s later when I can get to the car.
The plan is to install the LM7 5.3 in the car then measure everything up for the hot side for the turbo. I am sure this will take some time but it is winter and I have a shop with most all of the equipment that will be needed.
For the motor I will be running an ls6 intake, ls1 cam, and a set of PSI bee hive springs. I'm not sure about what push rods to use yet. I will be using a ported slp oil pump, JP racing billet timing chain set, and ARP rod bolts.
As far as the fuel system goes I will be running twin in tank pumps in a 4th gen tank, -6 feed lines, and -8 return line, and aeromotive boost reference fuel pressure regulator, billet fuel rails, and 42# injectors. Not sure on what I will be doing for a filter yet.
I will be running all of the above into a T56 trans. with a spec 3+ clutch setup, custom drive shaft, and a moser 9" reared.
As far as the chassis goes I have a set of spohn sfc's and lca's. Like I said before, I'm not sure if I want to lower the car or not yet. I also have a set of C5 Z06 wheels 17-9.5 with 275/40/17 all the way around. On the brake side I'm going C5 Z06 front's, and ls rear's. I am thinking about a cage, maybe a 6 point. I just don't want any door bars.
I am really looking forward to this build, and I can't wait to be able to start getting my hands dirty. I would like to have it done by this spring. I would like to be able to run it on the power tour, and the lsx nationals. This will be a street car, not a drag car or a dyno queen. I am looking for 450-500rwhp in a fairly reliable combination. I think this should be doable.
Just a little background on the car. it is a 1987 IROC 305 carb car. No power options at all, other than brakes and steering. no AC, not even a power hatch pull down. It has 43k miles on it no rust anywhere. But when I got it the car was stripped, no motor, no trans. The interior was in good shape except the stock seats were shot. They went in the garbage. I did happen across a set of 160mph gauges/ cable driven. I haven't seen any of these before so I was like SCORE! So, what I have found out about my car is that it is 1 of 499 that were actually built for the IROC race series. Now this is just what i have been told, I don't have any documentation on this, but i guess the first 250 went to the race teams across the country. But anyway, I just ordered some stainless headers for the turbo system, the motor and trans. are ready to go in, I have my wiring harness all put together, but I will need to extend it so I am pretty close to really getting this thing rollin.
I do have a couple of questions though. does anyone know of a good tuner for when I get this all together?
So that is what I am going to do. I just ordered my turbo components today, they were the last on the long list of parts to buy.
I'm not sure if I want to lower the car yet, I want to see what it looks like (how it sits) with the motor in it. Since I bought the car 5-6 yrs. ago without a motor and trans. has been just sitting in storage. And I have been collecting parts ever since.
So this is the plan, and I will be documenting with pic.s as the build comes together.
The car just came out of the paint shop, now she has a fresh coat of arctic white with gold SS stripes (which it had from the factory), I will post pic.s later when I can get to the car.
The plan is to install the LM7 5.3 in the car then measure everything up for the hot side for the turbo. I am sure this will take some time but it is winter and I have a shop with most all of the equipment that will be needed.
For the motor I will be running an ls6 intake, ls1 cam, and a set of PSI bee hive springs. I'm not sure about what push rods to use yet. I will be using a ported slp oil pump, JP racing billet timing chain set, and ARP rod bolts.
As far as the fuel system goes I will be running twin in tank pumps in a 4th gen tank, -6 feed lines, and -8 return line, and aeromotive boost reference fuel pressure regulator, billet fuel rails, and 42# injectors. Not sure on what I will be doing for a filter yet.
I will be running all of the above into a T56 trans. with a spec 3+ clutch setup, custom drive shaft, and a moser 9" reared.
As far as the chassis goes I have a set of spohn sfc's and lca's. Like I said before, I'm not sure if I want to lower the car or not yet. I also have a set of C5 Z06 wheels 17-9.5 with 275/40/17 all the way around. On the brake side I'm going C5 Z06 front's, and ls rear's. I am thinking about a cage, maybe a 6 point. I just don't want any door bars.
I am really looking forward to this build, and I can't wait to be able to start getting my hands dirty. I would like to have it done by this spring. I would like to be able to run it on the power tour, and the lsx nationals. This will be a street car, not a drag car or a dyno queen. I am looking for 450-500rwhp in a fairly reliable combination. I think this should be doable.
Just a little background on the car. it is a 1987 IROC 305 carb car. No power options at all, other than brakes and steering. no AC, not even a power hatch pull down. It has 43k miles on it no rust anywhere. But when I got it the car was stripped, no motor, no trans. The interior was in good shape except the stock seats were shot. They went in the garbage. I did happen across a set of 160mph gauges/ cable driven. I haven't seen any of these before so I was like SCORE! So, what I have found out about my car is that it is 1 of 499 that were actually built for the IROC race series. Now this is just what i have been told, I don't have any documentation on this, but i guess the first 250 went to the race teams across the country. But anyway, I just ordered some stainless headers for the turbo system, the motor and trans. are ready to go in, I have my wiring harness all put together, but I will need to extend it so I am pretty close to really getting this thing rollin.
I do have a couple of questions though. does anyone know of a good tuner for when I get this all together?
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Tell me what you think. Here is a link to the full build thread.
http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...0-in-a-87-IROC
http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...0-in-a-87-IROC
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If tuning is not your thing than pm hellbents10 (Baker Engineering), he's local to you and I had good experiences with him.
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Hey buddy, nice ride! Can you post the pictures from the mifbody page? We can't see them without making a profile on that page :/ It looks great so far! I'm working on my '87 IROC. Going boosted 5.3. Don't have a build thread just yet. I'm waiting to get further along in my build till I post anything on it.
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Here are some more pic.s. for you guys. I will take some more this afternoon. I finally got the seats in the car and now I need to get the console back in there. I will be working on wiring this week and the cold side of the turbo system once the intercooler is mounted up.
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Thanks man! Well I worked on it all weekend and finally got the exhaust to where I want it. Just waiting on a muffler now. Going stainless Dynomax race bullet to a turn down in front of the rearend.
Oh, yeah I almost forgot about my KORE3 flexcore brake lines, I only got the fronts for my brake conversion. I will be geting the rears when I convert the 9" from drums to ls1 disc's.
I also got the new radiator in and mounted the electric fans to it. I an gonna have to be pretty creative on the hoses since the hot side is pretty close to the drivers side outlet of the radiator. I think a rubber 90 to a aluminum tube to another 90. Ah I will show you what I'm talking about when I get there.
I did get the hot side completely finished this weekend.
Everything fits. CHECK
Waste gate plumbed into the exhaust. CHECK
3 O2 bungs fitted and welded in place. CHECK
Now I will get to work on the cold side(hopefully get that done this week) then its on to the wiring and this thing should be rollin! I will keep my fingers crossed!
Oh, yeah I almost forgot about my KORE3 flexcore brake lines, I only got the fronts for my brake conversion. I will be geting the rears when I convert the 9" from drums to ls1 disc's.
I also got the new radiator in and mounted the electric fans to it. I an gonna have to be pretty creative on the hoses since the hot side is pretty close to the drivers side outlet of the radiator. I think a rubber 90 to a aluminum tube to another 90. Ah I will show you what I'm talking about when I get there.
I did get the hot side completely finished this weekend.
Everything fits. CHECK
Waste gate plumbed into the exhaust. CHECK
3 O2 bungs fitted and welded in place. CHECK
Now I will get to work on the cold side(hopefully get that done this week) then its on to the wiring and this thing should be rollin! I will keep my fingers crossed!
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Well, I thought I would have been further along by now. But, I got to the intercooler tonight. Cut out the bumper to fit it(gotta love plasma cutters). I rad to remove just enough of the back side to fit the intercooler and keep all the mounting points for the bumper cover, oh and the fog light brackets. I am hoping that I can get it on the lift tomorrow so I can get the intercooler mounted, and get to work on the cold side. Looks like I will get to learn how to big weld aluminum. SWEET!
I'm getting closer and closer to this.
I will be posting some more pic.s this weekend.
I'm getting closer and closer to this.
I will be posting some more pic.s this weekend.
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So I got the intercooler mounted into the bumper, and now I am working on the cold side pluming. I have everything measured up and I will be cutting the tubing I have and welding it up. I would ike to use as little silicone joints as possible. Not that I am looking to run big boost numbers, but they are the first things to leak. So I will be welding it all up. Next will be the wiring.
Let me know what you think.
Let me know what you think.
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ok so the pics aren't loading up. You can see more pics over here.
http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...624#post763624
http://www.mifbody.com/vbulletin/sho...624#post763624
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So I am thinking about changing my cam set-up to a ls9 cam. I think thee is a little bit of work that will need to be done but I think it would be a step in the right direction for the boosted application. I have a stock ls1 cam in it now but I think the ls9 setup would be better for what I am looking for in a street car. I would like to keep it as much of a sleeper as possible. Which of the 2 cams would be better in your opinion?
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Ok, so today I got the inter cooler as plumed as far as I can. I need one more 90 to finish from the IC to the TB. Then its all good to go. Then once I get everything plumed I will take everything back off, and wrap the complete hot side to the exit of the engine bay. Once I have the hot side off I will wire everything up and HOPEFULLY I will have a running car. Oh, yeah! I should really start thinking about coolant hoses. And I need a place to mount my meth kit.
I may be pulling the motor out in the near future, since I did order the LS9 cam and the other stuff to go with it. So, that should get done while the hot side is off also. I will also be putting the 4th gen motor mounts with poly bushing at the same time. And, Im sure this wont be the last thing that I have to do, but I still need to get a drive shaft made for it.
One step forward, 2 steps back.
I will post some pic.s tomorrow. We all love pic.s!
I may be pulling the motor out in the near future, since I did order the LS9 cam and the other stuff to go with it. So, that should get done while the hot side is off also. I will also be putting the 4th gen motor mounts with poly bushing at the same time. And, Im sure this wont be the last thing that I have to do, but I still need to get a drive shaft made for it.
One step forward, 2 steps back.
I will post some pic.s tomorrow. We all love pic.s!