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Old 09-06-2013, 08:44 AM
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What does it pickup ait wise going down the track? I have a large garret core to build for my car, but I don't have it running yet, I have used them on plenty of big power 4 bangers with great results.

I have seen the treadstone work well on some fast 4 bangers as well, seems to be a good budget core for sure.

I am goin to the track tonight with a friends turbo mustang (800rwhp) with one of the ebay special 4" thick cores, The aits rise like crazy on the interstate, I will post up the data from the track later tonight.

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The mustang didn't run that good, its a stick car and had problems shifting so it spent alot of time not spooled. 331sbf, gt42-76, e85 ~20psi made 800 wheel.

The ait picked 70 deg on a 1/4 mile pass, its the 4" core.

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I just picked up a D1 car and will be looking at swapping to a fmic for a number of reasons, looks being a big one! LOL

I had a CX 31x12x4 fmic with the 3" in/out and made 949rhwp on 110 oct and 700rhwp on 11psi & 93 oct.

For $100, i will be using it on this car as well!!
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What's an intercooler?



Nice post and information Jim.
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What was pre/post temp and pressure skinnies? 100* off is a good number, but not if outlet temp is in the 300s.

Pressure drop can be misleading. It's a double edged sword. You need drop in order for it to do its job- Cooling the charge- but too much results in loss of HP.
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Originally Posted by PRAY HRD
I just picked up a D1 car and will be looking at swapping to a fmic for a number of reasons, looks being a big one! LOL

I had a CX 31x12x4 fmic with the 3" in/out and made 949rhwp on 110 oct and 700rhwp on 11psi & 93 oct.

For $100, i will be using it on this car as well!!
All good and well saying that. But if another $3-400 could yield another 150hp, it has to represent great value.

Would be interesting to see more back to back results
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i wouldn't expect a whole lot more to have been had. it was just a truck mani kit with stock heads, a mild cam and a vic jr on 22 psi, nothing exotic or high flowing about it. obviously i could be wrong, but i was pretty pleased with 949 on a conservative tune as the car saw more street cruising than track. the OP is my tuner and seemed pretty impressed with the simple combo's output
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
Also alot of mis-information going around about the CXracing cores. On the standard universal 31x12x4 with 3" inlets/outlets we saw 3.5psi of back pressure at 20lbs of boost.

I'm sure I could pick up some power with a nicer aftermarket IC. Just not worth it for my application.

My cooler was $125 shipped. For the money spent... it works very well.
I'm seeing up to 5psi pressure drop with same cooler (15psi manifold pressure, 383ci with TC78)
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Originally Posted by Louis
What was pre/post temp and pressure skinnies? 100* off is a good number, but not if outlet temp is in the 300s.

Pressure drop can be misleading. It's a double edged sword. You need drop in order for it to do its job- Cooling the charge- but too much results in loss of HP.
Highest I've seen of now is 240 degrees on one full pull, but most of the time I'm running right at 190-200 at the end of a run. This is racing in 95 degree heat.

I think the 9" version and my bumper cut more would make a big difference. I talked to treadstone about the 6" intercooler when I got it, they said I should be able to shove 1200rwhp through it, just isn't ideal. They told me iats would go up, but restriction shouldn't be an issue and so far it hasn't been.
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Vengeance racing did a TT c6 with about a 18 inch high intercooler. It was 4 inch thick and is currently supporting approx 1500rwhp! The hight really is helping pull the heat out.
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This is the intercooler I had made up

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Originally Posted by THADD


This is the intercooler I had made up
How much did that unit run?
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Originally Posted by slowlsx
How much did that unit run?
Right at $1200 by the time it was shipped. Will have less than 1 psi drop and is good for well more than my 76mm can make
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Had to be faulty
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Originally Posted by THADD


This is the intercooler I had made up
Baller stuff right there son...can't hide money!

Are you going to log pressure drop to verify Thadd?
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I may do some testing on it, but its not high on the priority list. I'm fairly confident it's good to go
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It should be relatively easy to set-up a pressure transducer or sensor pre and post intercooler and log it with your BS3.
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Guys may I advise you to use Motorola differential sensor? That would be precise and easy to setup, just find 5V source and connect 2 pressure sources. Don't have to worry about different gauges reading different anymore.
I used MPX5050DP, 7.5psi range, it puts out 5V signal you can log
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I will be logging it with the BS3 for sure
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THADD, any reason for only going for a 6 inch high core?


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