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Old 07-31-2015, 09:42 AM
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I'm building an LQ4 408 twin turbo and was wondering what would be the maximum power I can push it to safely and the potential power I can make on a conservative boost level:
LQ4 408 10:1 CR
AFR 230cc heads (2.02/1.60)
Callies DragonSlayer 4" crank
Callies H-beam 6.125" rods
1.6 Scorpion roller rockers
Chromoly pushrods
Kooks headers
Dynomax race bullet muffler
Borla catback
Brian Tooley Springs
Jake's Performance Stage V 4L80E
Yank 3600 stall converter
E85
3.00 gear ratio
JE pistons
Precision Turbo twin turbos (any recommended size?)
Holley EFI dominator with 5.7" screen
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You could make 1500 or so on E85.
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We use the Precision PTB505-6466 on our engines to make up to 1800hp. Not the cheapest turbos but they work great! Your setup should be good to 1500hp.
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Would a 408 hold up to 1,800hp-2,000hp or is that pushing it? My goal with this build is to have a street car capable of that and I'm afraid if I set the boost to that level one time that it would blow up. Should I do a LQ4 418 for that goal or just make a strong 408 and not push it to 418?
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Originally Posted by WHTLTN2
Would a 408 hold up to 1,800hp-2,000hp or is that pushing it? My goal with this build is to have a street car capable of that and I'm afraid if I set the boost to that level one time that it would blow up. Should I do a LQ4 418 for that goal or just make a strong 408 and not push it to 418?
Cubic inches doesnt dictate strength. If anything, thinning out the cylinder walls with a larger bore is actually going to make the block capable of less power.

A poorly designed stroker can as well, lowering the rod/stroke ratio putting more side-load on the rods and pistons.

The next time I decide to go for 1500 hp im going no higher than 370 ci.
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Originally Posted by WHTLTN2
Would a 408 hold up to 1,800hp-2,000hp or is that pushing it? My goal with this build is to have a street car capable of that and I'm afraid if I set the boost to that level one time that it would blow up. Should I do a LQ4 418 for that goal or just make a strong 408 and not push it to 418?
Probably wouldn't hold up to any where near that power level for any length of time.
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I hope you guys are talking about CHP
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What kind of failures do you guys usually see at those power levels with built motors?
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There aren't too many guys pushing 4-bolt heads/block to those power levels anymore with the vast variety of 6-bolt stuff now on the market. You'd be dollars ahead to start with 6-bolt stuff and not look back. Take it from me, someone who has spent and is spending stupid money trying to make the 4-bolt stuff work at big power.

If you insist on moving forward. Slide on over to yellow bullet and do a little searching and reading on the topic. Lots of good info there. You can also seek out the cooling system mods I am currently doing to my iron 408 in an effort to keep head gaskets in it for more than 35 passes.

I'm spinning a blower that takes about 250-300 horsepower to turn and attemping to make near 1400 horse power. Which means my long block is being exposed to the strains of about 1700 horsepower. At that level with 4-bolt stuff I am quickly learning that head gasket become routine maintenance, much like oil changes.
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What are these cooling mods that you speak of?
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Yup, Blown06 is right. You are waisting your money on a 4bolt block. Anyone who tells you 1500CHP or WHP on a 4 bolt block is anywhere near "reliable" is lying to you. If you want to make anything over 1000whp safely and regularly you need to be looking into an LSX block or any other 6 bolt.
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I've talked to FR8TRN and he's running 800-1200hp to the ground. I'm not going to boost it up to anywhere near 1600 I just want to go all out with knowing that my motor is built strong since my dad is giving me his motor and trans out of his 01 2500 so I said why not.
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No one is telling you not to do it but expecting anything over 1200whp on a 4 bolt block is not realistic in terms of reliability.
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What are these cooling mods that you speak of?
putting the cold water where it counts the most and getting rid of water where it causes problems.
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Well if it blows then I'm putting in Dart LS next iron 427 twin turbo.
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Just because 4" stroke crankshafts are cheap, doesn't mean you need to use one.
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putting the cold water where it counts the most and getting rid of water where it causes problems.
One day I need to come check your **** out. I'm not far from you.
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just run it at 1000rwhp and beat it untill it dies. buy then you should have saved up for a 6 bolt lsx block and nice 6 bolt heads for your 1500-2000 hp goal.

if you think a stock 4 bolt block is going to make it down the track @ 1500-2000hp i think your going to be very disappointed
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Curious why everyone keeps saying more cubes is bad........

NRE makes 2,500 HP on their LSX 454ci TT........built as a daily driver.

http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/p..._454lsx_tt.pdf

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