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Old 03-31-2016, 08:06 PM
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Any tires out there aside from drag radials that just might hook if using a boost controller? Drag radials just wear too fast...at least the MT's do in my case.
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Originally Posted by 69-chvl
Any tires out there aside from drag radials that just might hook if using a boost controller? Drag radials just wear too fast...at least the MT's do in my case.
try nitto 555r's greaatt drag radial that lasts a long time and hooks.
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The nt555r wear very good for a radial and hook better than a street tire. I know you said besides a radial but they really do wear good.
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im gonna try proxes tq's I hear good things about them. I've mickey Thompson dr's and yes they wear fast but they also hook like none other on the street. right now I'm looking for the best hooking street tire woth atleast some sort of sidewall that's actually stable around turns. I feel like your probably wanting something similar? if anyone has any other real experience please chime in I'm interested as well
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If you are looking for a stiffer sidewall, the Toyo R888's is a great street tire that grips really well.
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How many miles are you looking to get? I run M&H drag radials on the street. 2k miles and 20 track passes and they still look good
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Originally Posted by SPRAYED 01
How many miles are you looking to get? I run M&H drag radials on the street. 2k miles and 20 track passes and they still look good
As many as possible lol!

I don't know what happened to my MT 255/60/15 DR's but I think I got less than 1k miles. BUT - here in the northeast we had a lot of snow events this year and the roads were constantly covered with snow or the brine solution, so the tires spun a lot which I think ground them down. They did hook nice when they were working.
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Originally Posted by 69-chvl
Any tires out there aside from drag radials that just might hook if using a boost controller? Drag radials just wear too fast...at least the MT's do in my case.

Define street tyres....what size range you need...and of course even a wastegate is a boost controller.

As Skinnies proves, with the right combo and boost control he can get even plain old M&S radials to hook very very well.

Likewise Z can get his RX7 to hook very well on very normal tyres.

So obviously tyres will make the job much much easier, but control over the power delivery is far more important.....so in that respect there are boost controllers...and there are boost controllers.

Do you have a good one, or bad one ?
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For a street tire I have found the 555r to be amazing. They last forever and are cheap

They are hard enough they will not ball or feather so you never have lost traction vs say the mickey which are just too soft for a true street tire

There is a learning curve to the tire, don't shock them and you can pour it on big time

On the street on high lower I went through a set of mickeys in 2 weeks... And even being very cautious not to blow them off. The power shreds them up on a rough surface like asphalt.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo

So obviously tyres will make the job much much easier, but control over the power delivery is far more important.....so in that respect there are boost controllers...and there are boost controllers.

Do you have a good one, or bad one ?
This is everything
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
For a street tire I have found the 555r to be amazing. They last forever and are cheap

They are hard enough they will not ball or feather so you never have lost traction vs say the mickey which are just too soft for a true street tire

There is a learning curve to the tire, don't shock them and you can pour it on big time

On the street on high lower I went through a set of mickeys in 2 weeks... And even being very cautious not to blow them off. The power shreds them up on a rough surface like asphalt.
Thanks Rotary this is great info. The streets are kinda rough here so AND I drive ALOT so I can see why the MT's are wearing down fast. I also think all the heat cycles are making them lose their effectiveness, which makes them spin more, which makes them wear even faster....

I'm using the boost control in the Holley. But even with just gate pressure (7psi) my 225/55/16 BFG that I'm running for now cant hold **** off the line. I may look into the 555's, Nitto only has 245/50-16 avail - think this is a good choice?

I'm using boost vs speed, and really don't ramp any additional boost in until after say 30-40 mph. I did get 16psi to hold last night after about 70mph so there's some promise I guess.
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How you ramp it in is definitely the most important part like others have said. I use boost by time on my car. 275/50/15 I can get 27lbs to hook in right at 1 sec on a 315/35/17 it takes a little over 2. This blasting down a highway
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Originally Posted by oscs
How you ramp it in is definitely the most important part like others have said. I use boost by time on my car. 275/50/15 I can get 27lbs to hook in right at 1 sec on a 315/35/17 it takes a little over 2. This blasting down a highway
That is amazing!

What tires? I could try boost/time. Every time you back of the throttle the "clock" resets right?

I would think boost/speed should work really good though.
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Cant believe how cheap these are:

http://www.jegs.com/i/Nitto/726/40133/10002/-1

I'd like a little fatter but that is all that is offered in 16" I believe.
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Originally Posted by 69-chvl
That is amazing!

What tires? I could try boost/time. Every time you back of the throttle the "clock" resets right?

I would think boost/speed should work really good though.
Not with the Holley, Not unless you set up a trigger. 275/50/15 is the ET street R and the 315 is the NT05r. I've always been told RPM based boost is the way to go but i prefer the timing aspect.
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For me on high power the mickeys where good for 1 maybe 2 hits where traction is great, then they are balled up and traction goes down very fast. Need a burnout to clean the surface again

Probably alot of what you are seeing

The nitto will not do this. They will look like this regardless of what you do to them. I have full traction potential all the time. Can make 10 hits in a row and all is good

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Def over 1000 honest HP in this video when all in. And you can see the surface. It is over 1g acceleration by 80mph. 26" 275 nitto

I could do that over and over like a bracket car.... But if I didn't control the TQ delivery and just let boost wack in like a light switch I'd smoke them on a 1/3 that power

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What was your ramp in on the run? I forget.
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I run the NT05Rs... same material as the Toyos. Either would be decent on the street. With 25psi, they hook pretty well. A little heat in them and they do better...
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Define street tyres....what size range you need...and of course even a wastegate is a boost controller.

As Skinnies proves, with the right combo and boost control he can get even plain old M&S radials to hook very very well.

Likewise Z can get his RX7 to hook very well on very normal tyres.

So obviously tyres will make the job much much easier, but control over the power delivery is far more important.....so in that respect there are boost controllers...and there are boost controllers.

Do you have a good one, or bad one ?
Another thing I've seen Skinnies talk about is using low timing as a traction control.


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