Best shop/vendor for turbo build
03-18-2017, 05:57 PM
#1
Best shop/vendor for turbo build I'm about to start a 5.3 turbo build and I'm looking for a single source to help me come up with the best plan, spec out and sell me parts, etc.
any of you guys have advice on who to go with? Care to share your experiences with and results?
I dont think it would be productive to be getting be getting advice from several different sources
thanks
any of you guys have advice on who to go with? Care to share your experiences with and results?
I dont think it would be productive to be getting be getting advice from several different sources
thanks
03-23-2017, 08:06 AM
#6
Definitely not baller, or beater, so I guess somewhere in between.
I've been getting the chassis, trans and rear end beefed up before working on the powerplant.
I know it's gonna be a 5.3, and I would like to find some local street type class to race in. Not really into bracket racing, definitely can't afford to compete in big time radial racing. I would like to run mid 5s in the 1/8th, with room to strap on a bigger turbo and go deep in the 5s.
I've been getting the chassis, trans and rear end beefed up before working on the powerplant.
I know it's gonna be a 5.3, and I would like to find some local street type class to race in. Not really into bracket racing, definitely can't afford to compete in big time radial racing. I would like to run mid 5s in the 1/8th, with room to strap on a bigger turbo and go deep in the 5s.
03-23-2017, 08:14 AM
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what car? I have quite a few 5.3 blocks, cranks, forged rods, pistons, ect.
What I don't have right now is $ as I'm out of work.
PM me if interested, I've done some turbo builds that worked out great without breaking the bank.
What ecm? PM me and I can help you out.
What I don't have right now is $ as I'm out of work.
PM me if interested, I've done some turbo builds that worked out great without breaking the bank.
What ecm? PM me and I can help you out.
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03-23-2017, 01:36 PM
#12
lol and Forcefed86 to help with details?
which fuel would be best? Race fuel, E85, straight up alcohol??
what size injectors?
cam?
can I short fill the block?
at what point do I need forged internals?
Which turbo?
etc etc etc.
oh and I'm definitely gonna check out the sloppy stuff.
which fuel would be best? Race fuel, E85, straight up alcohol??
what size injectors?
cam?
can I short fill the block?
at what point do I need forged internals?
Which turbo?
etc etc etc.
oh and I'm definitely gonna check out the sloppy stuff.
03-23-2017, 01:57 PM
#13
I notice that your in TN, check out Brown's Performance Chris Brown in Soddy Daisy, TN. He does a ton of LS builds in that area.
That said, you will always make out better doing your own work and learning. I was a noob to forced induction when my project began and I am a few weeks from first fire in my 72 Nova 5.3 turbo.
That said, you will always make out better doing your own work and learning. I was a noob to forced induction when my project began and I am a few weeks from first fire in my 72 Nova 5.3 turbo.
03-23-2017, 02:52 PM
#15
I notice that your in TN, check out Brown's Performance Chris Brown in Soddy Daisy, TN. He does a ton of LS builds in that area.
That said, you will always make out better doing your own work and learning. I was a noob to forced induction when my project began and I am a few weeks from first fire in my 72 Nova 5.3 turbo.
That said, you will always make out better doing your own work and learning. I was a noob to forced induction when my project began and I am a few weeks from first fire in my 72 Nova 5.3 turbo.
Thanks for the heads up on Brown's. I may contact them.
03-23-2017, 02:58 PM
#16
Not sure on weight, hopefully ~3200 race ready including driver.
Rear suspension is from Midwest Chassis - Fab9, anti-roll, viking double adjustable coilovers, adjustable lcas, etc...... 3.70 gear
Powerglide, 1.80 straight cut gears
275/60 MT Pro radials.
Front suspension is stock but by the time i get all the turbo stuff pulled together it will be Midwest Chassis K-member, control arms, spindle, manual steering, viking da coilovers
MS3 gold box package
air to air IC
budget?? I want the chassis and fuel system right, then cheap out on the actual engine probably and buy a good turbo.
03-23-2017, 03:10 PM
#17
You are talking a 7 second car to run low 5’s at that weight. Even Mid 5's is serious power. You’ll need the chassis capable of 1.1x-1.2x 60’s and 1100-1300 whp.
Some have pushed factory bottom end builds that far, but hte list is short. They have super solid supporting parts and have the tunes spot on. Nothing “stock” is going to be reliable at those levels for long IMO. Weight is pretty key going fast cheap… and 3200lbs isn’t light weight by any means. I’d be looking into a 2300lb chassis car to run those number son any kind of a budget engine.
In your case with an LS I’d want an aftermarket block and rotating assy. for a low 5 sec 3200lb chassis. IMO BBC is a cheaper route for those goals at that weight. Mid to high 5’s is possible for a novice, SBE LS engine. But you have to lean on it pretty hard. Check out the build link in my signature for a SBE novice build on a budget. I happen to be right at 3100lbs or so as well.
Check out Capizzi’s build sheet for ideas in this video. It’s little lighter, but that’s the bare minimum to get even close to low 5’s on an SBE LS setup.
Some have pushed factory bottom end builds that far, but hte list is short. They have super solid supporting parts and have the tunes spot on. Nothing “stock” is going to be reliable at those levels for long IMO. Weight is pretty key going fast cheap… and 3200lbs isn’t light weight by any means. I’d be looking into a 2300lb chassis car to run those number son any kind of a budget engine.
In your case with an LS I’d want an aftermarket block and rotating assy. for a low 5 sec 3200lb chassis. IMO BBC is a cheaper route for those goals at that weight. Mid to high 5’s is possible for a novice, SBE LS engine. But you have to lean on it pretty hard. Check out the build link in my signature for a SBE novice build on a budget. I happen to be right at 3100lbs or so as well.
Check out Capizzi’s build sheet for ideas in this video. It’s little lighter, but that’s the bare minimum to get even close to low 5’s on an SBE LS setup.
03-23-2017, 03:37 PM
#18
This build is a process. I am a novice to putting a turbo on an LS1, but not a novice to drag racing and building cars. That's why I'm getting the chassis lined out first. It should all be capable of handling 2000hp, with the exception of it will only have an 8.50 cage in it with some extra bars.
I don't expect to go bottom 5s out of the gate at all. I do expect to be able to go 5.50s-5.80s on the sbe. At that point, I have to decide If I want to step up the game and go much faster. I consider from 5.50s to 5.0s or 5.teens a big jump.
I know Shawn Bryson (not well) and he went 4.80s on sbe with a filled aluminum block on alcohol. He has a nice car and the chassis works really well. Even though it is sbe, it isn't a cheap build at all. I would imagine his car is lighter than 3200 lbs. The reason I bring him up is I know that can be done. Now, I do NOT expect, nor even want to go in the 4s on a sbe, or probably not at all.
Like I said, it's going to be a process, and I'm going to be learning the tuning part as I go, in baby steps. I'm not looking for records, but I can go 6s naturally aspirated so I don't see why I can't go mid 5s on a turbo with a decently built race car.
As far as weight, I have no clue what it's actually going to weigh, I just usually see ~3200 lbs as the weight for sb turbo combinations in most classes.
I don't expect to go bottom 5s out of the gate at all. I do expect to be able to go 5.50s-5.80s on the sbe. At that point, I have to decide If I want to step up the game and go much faster. I consider from 5.50s to 5.0s or 5.teens a big jump.
I know Shawn Bryson (not well) and he went 4.80s on sbe with a filled aluminum block on alcohol. He has a nice car and the chassis works really well. Even though it is sbe, it isn't a cheap build at all. I would imagine his car is lighter than 3200 lbs. The reason I bring him up is I know that can be done. Now, I do NOT expect, nor even want to go in the 4s on a sbe, or probably not at all.
Like I said, it's going to be a process, and I'm going to be learning the tuning part as I go, in baby steps. I'm not looking for records, but I can go 6s naturally aspirated so I don't see why I can't go mid 5s on a turbo with a decently built race car.
As far as weight, I have no clue what it's actually going to weigh, I just usually see ~3200 lbs as the weight for sb turbo combinations in most classes.
03-23-2017, 03:59 PM
#19
Light as possible, E85, and decent set of twins is the easiest way to fast times IMO. It’s a pretty forgiving fuel and you can upgrade e98 or similar drum fuels when you want to turn it up. Twins let you go with a more aggressive “NA like” cam grind with 1:1 back pressure. Factory plastic intakes and valve train/heads are fine on the SBE. Pair of S372’s would give you room to grow down the line. Cast S366’s would work as well.