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Old 03-15-2007, 02:10 AM
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Default Ninetres's new forged 364 build thread

The rebuild has begun!

TSP iron 364
diamond pistons
Callies rods
GM 6.0 crank
Hand ported patriot stg 3 cnc LQ9 heads
T76gts
4" dp
Rossler terminator 2 TH400
PA racing chromoly kemeber
pa racing manual rack
9" w/ 3.25s, strange alum center and strange ultra-light spool, 35 splines
madman tq arm, wolf dbl adj chromoloy lcas and panhard
dual 255s with a -8 feed

I will bump this thread when new pics are uploaded every few days. Also happy to answer any questions you all might have! Enjoy!

http://calibercustoms.com/cagle_camaro_2.htm

Here is the previous build on my stock bottom end:

http://calibercustoms.com/cagel_camaro.htm
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badass!! cant wait to see what she does!!
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Sweet.can't wait to see the #'s.Congrat's.
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Hell yeah man cant wait to see what she does when its all done
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should run hard, are you making this a race car pretty much?
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
should run hard, are you making this a race car pretty much?
Faux no. I'm making it a street car worthy of being deemed a race car! lol

The cam is definitely speced to be just a cu^t hair below a full race spec cam. I am planning on driving it quite often...but I do have a little acura cl that nets me 30mpg for the rainy days

I should be bumping this thread tonight with more pics.....rear end and fuel system are done, rear suspension is done, motor is dropped and the new block is 90% assembled (with new dual chain...cam etc....) about ready to go in. Texum speed sent me the wrong head studs so I had that mountain top company send me some since they get here in 1 day. My mechanic is going to fab me up some gangster solid motor mounts that should allow a little extra room for that big down pipe to float above the k-member!
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such a sick car and you ran some bad *** times with a STOCK LS1..... sweet ride man
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Originally Posted by 99Z28LS1
such a sick car and you ran some bad *** times with a STOCK LS1..... sweet ride man
Thanks man. The 12.3 @ 115 with just a few bolt-ons, full weight and a melted stock clutch is a legend around here, lololol.

NEW PICS UP!!!!! Madman tq arm bishes. Pretty trick custom brackets and gussets too! Also pics of the old and new block

http://calibercustoms.com/cagle_camaro_2.htm
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Good luck!
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Nice looking. Can you get us a shot of the passenger side of the engine mounted on the UMI k-memebr. I want to take a look at the clearance for a DP. I wouldnt mind picking up one of those k-memeber's being the rest of my car has UMI pieces.
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Originally Posted by wickedred
Nice looking. Can you get us a shot of the passenger side of the engine mounted on the UMI k-memebr. I want to take a look at the clearance for a DP. I wouldnt mind picking up one of those k-memeber's being the rest of my car has UMI pieces.
Mine is for sale and already out of the car, I am going to use a PA racing k member.

It looked like a 3.5" DP with the UMI might even be too big. No way a 4" would fit with 6.0 manis.

The UMI was also quite a bit heavier than the PA racing.
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sweet the engine is out, man the time is near!!! lets predict a track date!?
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y did u get rid of teh 6speed? was tondss's th400 really better then ur t56? did u like the th400 in his car more? -2002blackss
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Originally Posted by erikthegoalie
y did u get rid of teh 6speed? was tondss's th400 really better then ur t56? did u like the th400 in his car more? -2002blackss
My reverse was dust....and a TH400 car will ALWAYS beat a 6 speed car with equal mods.
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Originally Posted by ninetres
My reverse was dust....and a TH400 car will ALWAYS beat a 6 speed car with equal mods.
im talking about dailydriverness, like what rpm is a th400 at 85 etc... and the fun factor. is it worth it?
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
im talking about dailydriverness, like what rpm is a th400 at 85 etc... and the fun factor. is it worth it?
"dailydriverness" lololol

I have 3.25 gears so my RPMS will be a little more tame than Mr Pres's with the 3.50s.....and his rpms are manageable. I also only have a 3200ish stall so it isn't too high.

85?????? I won't be cruising at 85 on the freeway anymore, more like 60 now to keep the rpms down. Its give and take. I didn't feel like blowing through clutches once a year anymore either.

The fun factor will always win in a 6 speed. You have fun at the track going 10s.....and I will have almost as much fun gong 9s-----get it? At least I still get to shift on a really cool lookin pistol grip shifter, lol!
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Originally Posted by ninetres
"dailydriverness" lololol

I have 3.25 gears so my RPMS will be a little more tame than Mr Pres's with the 3.50s.....and his rpms are manageable. I also only have a 3200ish stall so it isn't too high.

85?????? I won't be cruising at 85 on the freeway anymore, more like 60 now to keep the rpms down. Its give and take. I didn't feel like blowing through clutches once a year anymore either.

The fun factor will always win in a 6 speed. You have fun at the track going 10s.....and I will have almost as much fun gong 9s-----get it? At least I still get to shift on a really cool lookin pistol grip shifter, lol!
whats an example of the rpms ud be at, at 70 on the highway?

as for the clutch problem i see what ur saying, thast y i have a twin disk

also, ive never been in a th400, how fast do they shift when u change gears? they have 3 gears right?
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
whats an example of the rpms ud be at, at 70 on the highway?

as for the clutch problem i see what ur saying, thast y i have a twin disk

also, ive never been in a th400, how fast do they shift when u change gears? they have 3 gears right?
lol, dude, my car is in pieces as you can see in the pics I posted a link too. I have no clue where my RPMs will be at. If that is your major concern buy a saturn and drive across the country in it a 2k rpms, lol.

A twin disk will be dust in no time if you race a lot and make BIG horse power. Also, a fully built T-56 will take a beating once you get up above 900rwhp.

A TH400 shifts INSTANTLY. The throttle blade also stays open the whole time so there is ZERO turbo lag between gears. Yes, they have 3 gears.
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I understand completley on the UMI K-member. I have a old profab unit I may use. I have a 3 inch down pipe and exhaust right now that I plan to run for a while. Once I get al little more serious with the car I amy put the tube k in and run a 4 inch DP.
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Originally Posted by ninetres
lol, dude, my car is in pieces as you can see in the pics I posted a link too. I have no clue where my RPMs will be at. If that is your major concern buy a saturn and drive across the country in it a 2k rpms, lol.

A twin disk will be dust in no time if you race a lot and make BIG horse power. Also, a fully built T-56 will take a beating once you get up above 900rwhp.

A TH400 shifts INSTANTLY. The throttle blade also stays open the whole time so there is ZERO turbo lag between gears. Yes, they have 3 gears.
i know ur car is in pieces, is there any other way a turbo car can be??????
i just thought ud know ur rpm on the highway by comparing it to tondss

anyone know where i can see a video of someone driving a th400 on the street normally???



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