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Old 06-07-2005, 07:49 PM
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Has anyone tried this, or even considered doing it on a naturally aspirated LS1? I was thinking this might be a feasible way to lower IAT's and possibly run a little better during the hotter months at the strip. I also thought it would allow me to use a little more timing. I am not expecting any huge gains but thought it might be nice to cool the incoming air. I was only planning to use it at the track. Any thoughts? Is this worth trying?
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very good question!
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Originally Posted by Hugger
Has anyone tried this, or even considered doing it on a naturally aspirated LS1? I was thinking this might be a feasible way to lower IAT's and possibly run a little better during the hotter months at the strip. I also thought it would allow me to use a little more timing. I am not expecting any huge gains but thought it might be nice to cool the incoming air. I was only planning to use it at the track. Any thoughts? Is this worth trying?
-Josh
HELL-YAH! I got one and it Rocks. Got it from Snow Performance. I don't
know if any sponsors carry it yet. I bought mine last Winter.
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Originally Posted by 1QuickT-A
very good question!
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Jbuckweiser, so you are running methanol/water on a naturally aspirated motor?
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Originally Posted by Hugger
Jbuckweiser, so you are running methanol/water on a naturally aspirated motor?
YES I AM and with a retune I gained about 30hp. For what it cost and the
gains in power it made I don"t know of any power adder that comes close
in cost per dollar especially if you already have H/C to go with it.
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Originally Posted by jbuckweiser
YES I AM and with a retune I gained about 30hp. For what it cost and the
gains in power it made I don"t know of any power adder that comes close
in cost per dollar especially if you already have H/C to go with it.

Which kit are you using?
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Originally Posted by JNorris
Which kit are you using?
SNOW PERFORMANCE
Old 06-13-2005, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jbuckweiser
YES I AM and with a retune I gained about 30hp. For what it cost and the
gains in power it made I don"t know of any power adder that comes close
in cost per dollar especially if you already have H/C to go with it.
Question, (and I'm not doubting you, I just want to know) Did you dyno your gains or... How do you know you gained 30hp??
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i just looked at their website...interesting stuff. How often do you spray your car? (track, street??) i don't know much about this stuff, heard of it for boosted applications but not NA. anyone had problems with these kits?? I'm curious about this injection.
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Fast toys has the smc kit and they probably have some #s for ya from dyno time. I dont because ive never ran without it, but im running with about 11 lbs boost and stock twin intercoolers from procharger, and i can run back to back runs in 95 degree weather and not have any detonation. I know its not NA but just a point of reference. Its equal with a single m15 jet to 104 octane, i was told with 92 pump gas, and its alot cooler air charge than 104 alone. This is from steve at SMC, when i bought it.
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Originally Posted by 01Blackerado
Question, (and I'm not doubting you, I just want to know) Did you dyno your gains or... How do you know you gained 30hp??
I saw the software printout after my tuner added 2* more timing and 6% more fuel. Before the W/I tune my tires were on verge of breaking loose and
now I can't keep from spinning big time in 1st and sideways in 2nd if not careful.
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Jbuckweiser,
Are you using a vacuum switch to activate the water/methanol? If not what do you use to turn it on. Thanks for all your help.
-Josh
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Originally Posted by ZL1Killa
i just looked at their website...interesting stuff. How often do you spray your car? (track, street??) i don't know much about this stuff, heard of it for boosted applications but not NA. anyone had problems with these kits?? I'm curious about this injection.
Right now my W/I controller is set @2.3volts and on full@4volts. Anytime you mash you motor it goes on, but for cruise control etc the LED shows
that its not on. I have mine hooked up to my w/washer tank and use very
little 1qt. per tank. Most generally less than 1/2gal. per tank of gas for me.
One benefit to using W/I is that you can run mid-grade gas or regular if
your elevations pretty level.
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Originally Posted by Hugger
Jbuckweiser,
Are you using a vacuum switch to activate the water/methanol? If not what do you use to turn it on. Thanks for all your help.
-Josh
the controller I have is wired into the TPS. I have a Camaro, so that works fine.
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Sorry for all the questions. Does Snow Performance make the controller that you have? I was planning on using the vacuum switch supplied that is adjustable from 1-5 psi. Do you think this will be as effective a WOT switch? I am planning on using this as a track only setup. -
-Josh
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Originally Posted by Hugger
Sorry for all the questions. Does Snow Performance make the controller that you have? I was planning on using the vacuum switch supplied that is adjustable from 1-5 psi. Do you think this will be as effective a WOT switch? I am planning on using this as a track only setup. -
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The controller is Snow's. They're a small company and just give em a call and
see what they recommend.



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