What is the best rear?
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What is the best rear?
I've been reading a lot about rear ends lately. Many run the 12 bolt, but recently I keep hearing the 9 inch is much lighter than the 12 bolt and just as strong. The ford peeps are still saying a 8.8 inch is the way to go and it is lighter than both the 12 bolt and the 9 inch. I know that there is more gear selection with the 9 inch and 8.8, but what would be the advantage of going 12 bolt. The prices seem the same.
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Vince I pondered on this choice for the past couple of years before deciding on a 9"..My 10 bolt gave me great service and never broke but the possibility was always there of it happening...
Changing gears in a 9" is so much easier then a 12 bolt..9" center sections are sold thru just about any gear vendor and car range in price from $500 to $1200 complete..A couple of hours or less and the center can be changed out from a low gear set for track use to a high gear for everyday driving..
I might have went overkill with mine when I bought it ( 35 spline axels , lightweight spool and aluminum center) but when I go to the track now the rearend is the last thing on my mine that might break or give me problems..
Another selling point is a complete 9" can be shipped UPS in 4 boxes saving a high truck shipping freight bill saving me at the time over $100.00...Plus IMOP they look better then a 12 bolt..
Changing gears in a 9" is so much easier then a 12 bolt..9" center sections are sold thru just about any gear vendor and car range in price from $500 to $1200 complete..A couple of hours or less and the center can be changed out from a low gear set for track use to a high gear for everyday driving..
I might have went overkill with mine when I bought it ( 35 spline axels , lightweight spool and aluminum center) but when I go to the track now the rearend is the last thing on my mine that might break or give me problems..
Another selling point is a complete 9" can be shipped UPS in 4 boxes saving a high truck shipping freight bill saving me at the time over $100.00...Plus IMOP they look better then a 12 bolt..
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Vince, the 12bolt is good for most A4 guys, but the drivetrain shock of the M6 is a killer and the 9" seems the way to go there. I am waiting to get a 9" but thats the saem reasons as Tim pointed out, change a center in a couple hours and drive cross country. Good luck.
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Went to the track for the 1st time yesterday with the 9" installed and I've never had so much peace of mind when launching. I did long *** burnouts, dry hopped to clean tires, dumped clutch at 4500 rpms and really enjoyed the evening. The 9" is very strong. Posi units are known for breaking on them, but it's rare. I've read too many 12 bolt breakage posts and have a friend who broke his 12 bolt.
Granted, for what I use my car for, a 12 bolt would have been more than plenty, but at least the 9" is extra insurance.
Granted, for what I use my car for, a 12 bolt would have been more than plenty, but at least the 9" is extra insurance.
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I have a 12 bolt in my M6. I think the 9 inch is a stronger piece. But, you do lose a little more HP thru a 9 inch. In hindsight, if I did it again I probably would go with the 9 inch cause my car lives at the track! Made 11 passes yesterday!
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Originally Posted by VINCE
I've been reading a lot about rear ends lately. Many run the 12 bolt, but recently I keep hearing the 9 inch is much lighter than the 12 bolt and just as strong. The ford peeps are still saying a 8.8 inch is the way to go and it is lighter than both the 12 bolt and the 9 inch. I know that there is more gear selection with the 9 inch and 8.8, but what would be the advantage of going 12 bolt. The prices seem the same.
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Hey Bruce, are the 9" gears quiet? How long have you had it in? Been to the track with it? Im interested cause the whine alone may be worth a tenth!Ive already broke my spider gears and the ring gear bolts!
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Hey Bruce, are the 9" gears quiet? How long have you had it in? Been to the track with it? Im interested cause the whine alone may be worth a tenth!Ive already broke my spider gears and the ring gear bolts!
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one thing that i have not seen mentioned, which was THE deciding factor for me. with a 9" you have to have both abs and tcs for them to work. if you only have abs, it will not be operative. i don't have tcs, so i opted for the 12-bolt so i could keep my abs (has saved me many times). just something i wanted to make sure people realize
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The 8.8 is a good one also, but it has fewer ratios available for it. To keep your ABS with a 9 inch, you need to already have a four-channel system, meaning a sensor on both rear wheels, not just one into the center section of the axle. I got my 9 inch from Moser, and it bolted right in with no problems.
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i have a 12 bolt and never had problems when it was in this automatic car. but it doesnt hit the tires that hard. i broke the ring and pinion on a hard launch in a manual car it was in before. i was launching 6000 rpms or more. if it were me and i had your combo, NO DOUBT i would do a 9" for piece of mind. i doubt you are a dyno queen and it really only robs a few more rwhp over a 12 bolt. gear changes are way easy.
i would seriously look into Jay Billingsley's 9" esp with that bad *** rear sway bar they have designed. i think that is the ultimate combo. esp if you are serious about that nitrous shot on a big cube motor! good luck bro!
i would seriously look into Jay Billingsley's 9" esp with that bad *** rear sway bar they have designed. i think that is the ultimate combo. esp if you are serious about that nitrous shot on a big cube motor! good luck bro!