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Old 05-14-2012, 01:02 PM
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Default ZL1 6L90 trans swap into SS

I am currently replacing my 6L80 that is slipping with the 6L90 out of a ZL1. Wondering if anyone has done this and if anyone has the stock TCM calibration for a ZL1. Any input on this would be great.
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keep us posted on this swap, sounds very interesting. i would get the trans all installed and find a gm tech that will bring his laptop and mdi unit to your place and re-flash the tcm with a factory ZL1 vin / cal file with tis.
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Got the trans bolted to engine, found the 6L90 is about 1.5" longer so crossmember and drive shaft is different. Ordered ZL1 crossmemeber and looking at having a 1 piece shaft build by Drive Shaft Shop. I am a GM tech but when using TIS it pulls the calibration assigned to the vin you are flashing, meaning you can not choose what trans cal you want to program. I contacted GM tech line as they are the ones that can change cal's (example: adding remote start to a vehicle not originally equipped) but they weren't willing/able to do this.
Most likely going to have to flash it with stock SS trans tune then planning to have tampa tuning make changes and compare to ZL1, only problem is no one has posted one and I dont have a ZL1 I can pull the tune from right now.
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im a gm tech also and you can flash the tcm with a zl1 vin,, when you get to the tis screen and it brings up the vin of your vehicle, just delete it and enter in a zl1 auto trans vin, then procede to re-program the tcm. trust me i have done this before on a camaro using a ctsv vin and calibration.
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Oh ok, didn't know that. I won't have any problems with the TCM having one vin # and all other modules with another? Thanks for the help, didn't know you could do it that way.
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nope, the ecm and other modules dont care what the trans vin# is.
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Cool!!! that will make things pretty easy then.. Too bad it's going to take 4-5 weeks to get a driveshaft. Any other recommendations on where to have one make other than DSS?
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Originally Posted by DIRTYBIRDWS6
Most likely going to have to flash it with stock SS trans tune then planning to have tampa tuning make changes and compare to ZL1, only problem is no one has posted one and I dont have a ZL1 I can pull the tune from right now.
I just checked again and no one has posted a ZL1 stock tune. I know a guy with a manual, and im still looking for an automatic to have the configureation to marry up to your tune.

We'll make it happen, if I can get the 6l90 ZL1 tune
Phil
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he is a gm tech, all he has to do is program the tcm with a vin# from an auto zl1 car,, just have one on your salesman pull up a vin number for you from there dealer system. then flash it and then you can read it out with hp tuners or tunercats
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Originally Posted by jay_lt4
he is a gm tech, all he has to do is program the tcm with a vin# from an auto zl1 car,, just have one on your salesman pull up a vin number for you from there dealer system. then flash it and then you can read it out with hp tuners or tunercats
Phil, I should be able to do this no problem. Just haven't had the time to button up the converter bolts and starter so I can connect the battery and flash it. I placed an order with DSS for an aluminum drive shaft and its 4 weeks out. Hopefully we can have a tune figured out long before then and then just slap a driveshaft in and go.

Thanks guys
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any news?
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I got the TCM flashed using VIN from a ZL1. Sent that tune off to Phil at Tampa tuning. He has already modified it and sent it back. I'm now only waiting on a drive shaft that is being built by DSS. Should be here next week and we'll see how it drives.. Fingers crossed.
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We got the first line tune in there and it went well. I just updated for additional dial in. Three scans looked good, I just wanted to change some options at shift points.
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so what all was needed for the swap, what did it run you $$$$
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Curious to see how this turn out.
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*Part # 24256841: ZL1 6L90 trans
*Part # 20952438: ZL1 cross-member
*Custom drive shaft from DSS (shorter than stock SS shaft)
*Tune done by Tampa Tuning

It's gonna be around 5K in parts including $1000 core charge as 6L80 can't be used as core.
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Thanks for sharing the info. The CTS-V trans would be the same too?
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yes, I think so
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so how is the trans working?

do you think dss shop has the specs for your shaft yet, im thinking about doing the same swap.

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