LT1MAN

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new automobile mag showing 2010 Camaro 3.6L DOHC v6 304 hp!!! wtf!!! even though the GT is considerably lighter and has plenty of torque to compensate. i just can't believe GM made a respectable v6 f-body.

jmurray87

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GM did it before when they first put the 3800 into the 4th gens....even then it was DAM close to that of the current GTs.

1996 Camaro v6 - 200hp
1996 Mustang GT - 215hp



Close in HP but still far off in terms of performance....and we know the 2010 mustang is getting a HP increase (400hp is the rumor)

LT1MAN

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true that. so i guess they're gonna have to supercharge those 2010 stangs to make 400 right?

UltraZLS1

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Is all this 400hp talk true ? I remember when i first heard about the motor it was supposed to be 350hp...then I started hearing 375...and now its 400.

is this just hype or whats the deal?

for the mustangs sake I hope they give it 400. the car deserves it. right now it is all show and no go.

Semper91-RS

Mustang will probably get around 360whp, regardless of crank numbers, for the 2010 face lift. Supposedly a 5.0 engine, again. Which isn't over-all a bad thing, I suppose. The FEW spy shots out there seem to depict a GT500\Concept Mustang-esque front end, with a wider, curvier rear end, and 4" exhaust tips.

jmurray87

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Suppose to get a 5.0 or a 6.2l engine........only time for tell.


I also wonder what they will put in the V6 so it can go against the 5th gen V6. The 4th gen V6 still run even with the current V6 stangs......i know this...lol

UltraZLS1

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if it gets 360whp and stays in the 35xx pound range it will take a camaro for sure. And if on top of that keeps a lower price like usual...the camaro will be in trouble.

TriShield

The Mustang will still smoke it easily.

The V6 model isn't any different today that it has been traditionally, it's still weak compared to the V8 cars out there. It just looks better on paper.

ThisBlood147

I don't know what's in store for the base model 2010 V6 Mustang. But there's supposed to be (still unconfirmed) a turbo six model offered that will be in the 335-345hp range. Supposedly one of the new TT ecoboost engines. I'm guessing that for the base V6 they'll use the 3.5 that's currently in the Fusion. That should be good for about 265-270hp, depending on how they tune it....which is still respectable.

But there's still no real clue on what the GT's will be getting. Ford officials have more or less confirmed the GT will bump up at least to 350hp. What isn't known is whether the 4.6 will stay and get an overhaul again.......or if this fabled new OHC 5.0 will become a reality. My guess is that they'll bring a SOHC 5.0 to the GT......bringing about 350-365hp. The 400 hp 5.0 that was talked about would be a DOHC motor.....and I'm betting it would (if built) land in an HO model of some kind (Boss, Mach 1.......???). But as I said, nothing's really been confirmed as of yet.

And still no word on whether Ford will keep the SRA or go IRS. But considering this is a mid-model refresh of the current platform, I'd be willing to bet the Stang stays SRA until the 2012-2014 redesign hits. That's probably when Ford will give in and put a proper IRS in the car.

As far as S197 GT guys worrying about the 5th gen sixxer Camaro........I don't think there's any reason for them to sweat. Pre-05 GT guys are gonna be in trouble though, me thinks.

caseypayne69

2010 they are dropping the 4.6 so I here. Its 5.0 ot 6.2 coming for hte 400 hp motor.



I disagree with minor bolt on's people are getting these inthe high 12's. Is that all show no go?


I don't think Ford cares about the v6 in power its for the casual crowd for the sales. While the V8 isn't a good of a seller but for the hardcore crowd.


What will Ford do to respond to the Camaro V6?
Ford will offer a 4.0 SOHC v6 with a turbo putting down similiar hp of the v8 model.

0000000000

Exactly.

UltraZLS1

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yeah and an ls1 automatic with a verter that hooks will do 11's on a bolt on car. ET determines the driver and the hooking ability of the car. the trap shows the horsepower. Those bolt on 12 second stangs would get demolished from a highway roll against an ls1 running 13's. they are all show and no go when you look at trap speeds IMO

True they are not slow...but what I meant by the comment was compared to what is offered now 300hp is not going to cut it.

ThisBlood147

Agreed. Ford will get hate mail for the better part of the next decade if they hand Mustang enthusiasts a piddly HP increase for 2010. The 4.6 needs to go, in the worse way. I personally would like to see a 375-400hp standard production model if they plan to keep the weight where it is now. But if the car gets heavier, 400 would be the minimum I would consider acceptable.

Either way, Ford's OHC isn't gonna stay mod for mod NA with GM's LSX motors....that's just the way it is. But a Mustang that can get decently fast (low 12s at least) with just minor bolt-ons needs to make it to production. Of course, if there's any truth to this turbo sixxer that Ford has talked about.....those could turn out to be GT killers once ppl start modding them.

Johnnystock

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For now, Mustang is in trouble and less potent. Future model wont be lighter; its the way it tends to be, every car gets heavier because of gov regulation. Plus, ford will have to create and develop a new engine for the next mustang, unlike GM who can just pick a nice LS3 thats already in production. But the Ford will never let the Mustang die because its the car they do best. They will come back with something great.

Some of my friends that are not hard fans of Camaros like me are astonished by the new Camaro; and most by the V6 pushing 300hp, good mpg, and incredible look. They rely on the price range given by motor trend and other mags 22K$-32K$. I'm sure they're already in for the new Camaro. Like me.

Johnnystock

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Yep, that would be the end of v8 pony cars.
Like all the rumors about a 4cyl turbo in the Camaro. Everybody is saying a lot of things, but in the end the Camaro ended up with a base V6 and a top dog V8 version...

ThisBlood147

Ford does have a whole new lineup of motors that are about to start making production next year. They've been in development for the better part of the last 4 years. But they haven't made all the details official yet. Hopefully one the better performing ones make it into a Mustang model of some kind.

It's just wait and see now. The shroud has been lifted off of the Challenger and new Camaro. Now its Ford's turn to show and tell.

Wnts2Go10O

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the 5.0l program from ford was killed. there will be no 5.0l in the new mustangs

0000000000

2002 FBody 310 HP 340 TQ
2002 Stang GT 260HP 300 TQ

Price, quality, & appeal are what sell, not engine power. As a direct result in 2003, the vehicle with less performance prevailed. Regarding sales, the 4.6 V8 does not need to go anywhere since it will be SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper.

TriShield

It's widely believed the Mustang will be packing a new 5.0L V8 with around 400hp.

0000000000

^ that would be great. I always liked the pushrod motors.