Speedmonster185

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I have a 2000 WS6 and ever since I got it I've been wondering how it really compares to all the newer muscle cars that are starting to come out out. How does it compare to the different versions of all the newer muscle cars (for example the new Mustang GT's, Charger's - both v8s, and GTOs and any other recent quick cars, preferably muscle cars, but any comparison is fine). I've just been feeling a little inferior with all the new 400hp engines that are in things (GTOs, Chargers, etc.) but I'm curious how the speed of them actually compares. I'm talking stock cars here too, not modded ones.

My car is a bit quicker than stock though too, I've debaffled my hood, put a ported throttle body in, put a lid in, LT headers, an ORY and a Hooker catback. So i have a little edge on a stock car, but I think that would be the best comparison, stock-to-stock.

Thanks to anybody who answers .

aaron653

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i'd say we're down to the 03-04 cobra's and gt-500's...other than that we're right next to mach 1's and srt8s and a little ahead of the new stang gts

silverTA2002

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I've driven a Charger R/T, a 2007 Mustang, a G35 coupe, and an 05 GTO.

The GTO felt identical to my car in acceleration when I just had bolt ons. The others are much slower.

But, the GTO has more interior room, rides better, and has a MUCH nicer interior.

The Mustang rides better, has more interior room, and better visibility. Fit and finish is better, material quality is about the same though, very plasticy.

The Charger is a freakin boat. Lots of TQ down low, but more of a hwy cruiser than a drag racer. Very comfortable, tons of space inside and in the trunk, rides very nice. But, just a big cruiser. It also has very wierd, and lots of blind spots. You have to look out the side windows to see where you're turning, instead of the windshield. And the thing is absolutely enormous. I barely fit in my garage.

G35 coupe is a better car in every way except one....... straight line acceleration. It handles better, rides better, brakes and steering feel waaaaay better. Interior is lightyears ahead, it's way more nimble, and has a much classier look.

Basically, throw a supercharger on a G35 coupe and call it a day. (if you can afford to).

silverTA2002

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Oh yeah, option two to the supercharged G35 coupe would be a better looking GTO. Then you wouldn't "need" a supercharger. (though you may want one)

RPM WS6

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kdstang

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Am I off base in assuming that the G35 has the same potential as the 350z? I've gathered that the 3.5 Nissans are a bit of a let down, even when FI is added. That, and it might be jingoistic to say this, but there are a lot of people who would consider a charger, mustang, gto, TA, or camaro that would not even consider a 6-cyl car (especially an import) unless its a turbo buick, myself included. But supras might hit somewhere on the radar.

02silvaZ

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well, to start with ford still sux, mustang just got 300 ponies in '05, f-body got well over 300 ponies in '98, nice job of stayin' caught there ford. GTO, i agree with everything stated before, one really nice car. The charger, well, i have smoked 3 R/T's, but haven't raced any SRT-8's, i hope they can beat me for what one costs, if not sucks to make that payment, oh yeah, 4 freakin' doors, wassup wit dat? Cobras and GT500's have superchargers, heck give me a supercharger and i'll show you why GM is the horsepower king. I ain't even talkin' about a G35 or a 350Z, muscle car is american, PERIOD!

kdstang

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Here's my Top 10 New(er) Domestic Car list:

1) 2006-7 Z06
2) 2006 Viper
3) 2002-4 Z06
4) Shelby GT500
5) 03-04 Cobra
6) 2005-6 GTO
7) 98-02 F-bodies
8) Mach 1
9) 04 GTO
10) 05-07 Mustang GT

kdstang

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Run whatcha brung.

Finite1

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GTO + Procharger, I think, would give you the perfect all around set-up from stock.

If you have driven a G35 coupe manual, you know they dont suck. a supercharger/turbo would take a lot of time to adjust to though. but I'd imagine that would be PLENTY fast.

7w/aswap

New S197 stangs with the right drivers can be good races. Both with full bolt-ons is a fairly good race. They can both be low 12s, but once you do h/c or nitrous, the LS1 ends up on top.

02silvaZ

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I hear this everytime from stang owners, cause you need a s/c just to compete, my dad has an '04 cobra, he'll tell ya straight up motor for motor ford ain't got a chance that's why they s/c's on 'em

FORD ENGINEER:
"...build a motor strong enough to compete with GM, why thats nonsense, we just can't do it, put a s/c on it, there ya go..."

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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as far as straight line performance i cant think of any new car that outperforms ls1 fbodies thats less expensive.


as far as personal preference that can vary.

ssfast99

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the problem with all the new muscle cars that make 400 hp is that they are heavier than a f body. stock ls1 f-body verse anything under 50,000.00 stock will be beat. i have seen to many corvettes run same times as f-bodys so i now worship f-body LS1.

My1st Truck

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Concurance!

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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i dont know about 50k. cobras and GT500s(without markups) and C6s you can get for under 50k. those ugly *** AWD cars run strong too. but yes ls1 fbodies were great deals especially non ws6 and SS cars if you just wanted cheap horsepower.

Omega Doom

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thats whats so great about the aftermarket! I have been racing stangs(mainly foxbody's) for about 15 years and the LS1 motor's have so much more potential N/A over the Ford and everything else(except vipers) but you have to have a good after market and you got to get the weight off of these car's and then all hell will break loose! but it's really "to each his own" and thats what's fun about all this is the never ending debate's!

Car RamRod

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(at you not the quote)

02silvaZ

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Car RamRod = *****

LS1Silverado05

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Bottom line, dont worry about the HP numbers right away from new cars, they tend to be slower at the track than the numbers would lead you to believe. GTO is a good example of this, lots of power, but not really any faster than a very lightly modded F-Body..The 99WS6 in my sig can stick to a friends 6.0 GTO M6 like glue and even pull a hair. That said....GTOs are still badass but the weight is like a parachute to their track times.