Help quick after seafoam!!!!
06-06-2009, 11:26 AM
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Help quick after seafoam!!!! We seafoamed my buddies ride per the guidelines from the sticky on this site. I've done two other vehicles and they turned out fine. Only this time after seafoaming his ride there is a constant loud clunkining or thumping sound. It sound like some kind of knock but it won't go away. the car smoked like hell afterwards and i thought it may have been a chunk of carbon that could have fallen off into one of the cylinders. I did the seafoam process again and let the car sit for about 5 hrs with the seafoam in the system, same results. What could this be?
06-06-2009, 01:58 PM
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We seafoamed my buddies ride per the guidelines from the sticky on this site. I've done two other vehicles and they turned out fine. Only this time after seafoaming his ride there is a constant loud clunkining or thumping sound. It sound like some kind of knock but it won't go away. the car smoked like hell afterwards and i thought it may have been a chunk of carbon that could have fallen off into one of the cylinders. I did the seafoam process again and let the car sit for about 5 hrs with the seafoam in the system, same results. What could this be?
If too much remains in a cylinder and you go to start it later and it hasen't evaporated enough....you can hydalock the engine and damage a piston, rod, pushrod, bearing, etc......or break the damn crank in a serious hydalock.
"I'm not saying this is what happened"......but it certainly could be and sounds like something is bent. Could also be that you hammered one or both of the 02 sensors and thats making the engine stumble and misfire. And NO, you will not get a code when an 02 sensor is just failing, only when it fails completely.
Thats why the Mopar top end cleaner that Chrysler makes is WAY better to do then Sea Foam. Why, its safe.
When an engine gets hydralocked....the main symptom is loud clunking and thumping.
Sea Foam in the brake booster line........
When will people learn. Cleaners need to go in through the damn intake vacuum line only while the engine is running, and a cleaner that is a foam...not a liquid.I've done the Sea Foam in the brake booster line...then I thought,, WTF am I doing. I did the Mopar stuff after 3 Sea Foam treatments, and still got smoke.
Do the top end with a product that is designed for it.
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06-06-2009, 02:37 PM
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....... The vehicle had 144,XXX miles on it and we poured 1/2 bottle in the tank, 1/2 in the crankcase, with 1/2 bottle intially in the brake booster line. After we got the knocking sound we did the second 1/2 bottle along with the seafoam deep creep hoping to dissolve a chunk of carbon perhaps. Still no luck. The engine isn't missing, skipping or idling erratically, it just has that constant knock. No power loss either.
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06-06-2009, 03:39 PM
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yeah never use that **** in the crankcase, you probably broke up dirt and it got clogged in your engine and spin a bearing
i cringe whenever someone puts that junk in their crankcase
i cringe whenever someone puts that junk in their crankcase
06-06-2009, 05:07 PM
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i would NEVER use it in my oil unless i have used it at the first mile, or unless i was having an engine problem that would require me to rebuild it - just as a last resort
i always get into fights with people when i tell them to never put seafoam in the oil on a high mileage car, or get a transmission flush at 140,000 miles.. but they never listen, then make posts like this
06-06-2009, 05:40 PM
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i agree
i would NEVER use it in my oil unless i have used it at the first mile, or unless i was having an engine problem that would require me to rebuild it - just as a last resort
i always get into fights with people when i tell them to never put seafoam in the oil on a high mileage car, or get a transmission flush at 140,000 miles.. but they never listen, then make posts like this
i would NEVER use it in my oil unless i have used it at the first mile, or unless i was having an engine problem that would require me to rebuild it - just as a last resort
i always get into fights with people when i tell them to never put seafoam in the oil on a high mileage car, or get a transmission flush at 140,000 miles.. but they never listen, then make posts like this
06-08-2009, 09:15 AM
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You should never put any kind of liquid into the intake side of a motor. Seafoam isn't foam, its a liquid. It doesn't matter if you suck it up through a vacuum hose or pour it into the throttle body, its highly risky and only an experienced mechanic should ever try it. I can't think of any reason you would want to do it anyway.It does the same thing if you just dump it in the tank without the risk. I prefer to use Marvel Mystery Oil myself. I haven't seen much benefit using Seafoam. If you need to blow out some carbon, just take it out on the freeway and floor it and let it keep going until you get over 100. I doubt most people on this board drive these cars like a granny anyway to get carbon buildup, so its probably a waste of time.
06-08-2009, 11:18 AM
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Sorry but it's highly doubtful this motor bent a rod from the petroleum based product that was poured into the top end. Most of it was burned off while the motor was running and being poured in. Only a small amount was actually sitting on the cylinder walls and the piston. On the first fire that is all burnt off.
I'm not for sure what happened exactly unless somehow it caused a bearing or something to spin somehow. Only way I could see that happening is if something clogged up the pickup causing oil starvation??
I'm not for sure what happened exactly unless somehow it caused a bearing or something to spin somehow. Only way I could see that happening is if something clogged up the pickup causing oil starvation??
06-08-2009, 02:38 PM
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We seafoamed my buddies ride per the guidelines from the sticky on this site. I've done two other vehicles and they turned out fine. Only this time after seafoaming his ride there is a constant loud clunkining or thumping sound. It sound like some kind of knock but it won't go away. the car smoked like hell afterwards and i thought it may have been a chunk of carbon that could have fallen off into one of the cylinders. I did the seafoam process again and let the car sit for about 5 hrs with the seafoam in the system, same results. What could this be?
06-08-2009, 04:33 PM
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Sorry but it's highly doubtful this motor bent a rod from the petroleum based product that was poured into the top end. Most of it was burned off while the motor was running and being poured in. Only a small amount was actually sitting on the cylinder walls and the piston. On the first fire that is all burnt off.
I'm not for sure what happened exactly unless somehow it caused a bearing or something to spin somehow. Only way I could see that happening is if something clogged up the pickup causing oil starvation??
I'm not for sure what happened exactly unless somehow it caused a bearing or something to spin somehow. Only way I could see that happening is if something clogged up the pickup causing oil starvation??
06-08-2009, 04:38 PM
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Very simple to do. Get a clear hose that will fit on the intake port for the PCV. Start the engine and spray the entire bottle into the hose, it will suck it right in perfectly. Have some ready to turn the engine off the second the bottle runs out. Let it sit for 30 minutes or so and you're done.
That hose in the picture is connected to the port, I was just wanting to see how much oil gets sucked into the intake while idling. Just connect it to the port, take the PCV valve and the other short black bent hose off and spray it into the other end of the clear hose.
That hose in the picture is connected to the port, I was just wanting to see how much oil gets sucked into the intake while idling. Just connect it to the port, take the PCV valve and the other short black bent hose off and spray it into the other end of the clear hose.
06-08-2009, 07:18 PM
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Very simple to do. Get a clear hose that will fit on the intake port for the PCV. Start the engine and spray the entire bottle into the hose, it will suck it right in perfectly. Have some ready to turn the engine off the second the bottle runs out. Let it sit for 30 minutes or so and you're done.
That hose in the picture is connected to the port, I was just wanting to see how much oil gets sucked into the intake while idling. Just connect it to the port, take the PCV valve and the other short black bent hose off and spray it into the other end of the clear hose.
That hose in the picture is connected to the port, I was just wanting to see how much oil gets sucked into the intake while idling. Just connect it to the port, take the PCV valve and the other short black bent hose off and spray it into the other end of the clear hose.