Possible use for A.I.R. pump ?
05-17-2011, 09:45 AM
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Possible use for A.I.R. pump ? I haven't had my first cup of coffee yet, so please don't laugh
I recently disconnected the AIR system from my engine. All that's left to do is remove the pump. I started to think what if the pump flow were to be reversed ? What I mean is an external filter placed on the inlet hose to the pump, and the outlet routed to the air box, and the pump controlled by an external switch.
Would this be considered semi forced air ?
As I was looking at this pic. I just had another thought. My wife's Challenger has a CAI that has the IAT sensor relocated as far as possible from the TB. The claim is that it's better this way so that the sensor doesn't read the radiant heat coming from the TB and manifold.
I wonder what would be gained if my IAT sensor was to be relocated to the hole on the side of the lid.
Coffee's ready, gotta go
I recently disconnected the AIR system from my engine. All that's left to do is remove the pump. I started to think what if the pump flow were to be reversed ? What I mean is an external filter placed on the inlet hose to the pump, and the outlet routed to the air box, and the pump controlled by an external switch.
Would this be considered semi forced air ?
As I was looking at this pic. I just had another thought. My wife's Challenger has a CAI that has the IAT sensor relocated as far as possible from the TB. The claim is that it's better this way so that the sensor doesn't read the radiant heat coming from the TB and manifold.
I wonder what would be gained if my IAT sensor was to be relocated to the hole on the side of the lid.
Coffee's ready, gotta go
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"I haven't had my first cup of coffee yet, so please don't laugh
I recently disconnected the AIR system from my engine. All that's left to do is remove the pump. I started to think what if the pump flow were to be reversed ? What I mean is an external filter placed on the inlet hose to the pump, and the outlet routed to the air box, and the pump controlled by an external switch.
Would this be considered semi forced air ?"
ive heard of people doing this on the gen III fbody 2.8l v6 and gaining 5 to 15 hp, but to me to do it on a ls base seems irrelevant and point less. now on to the AIT, i would move that away from the TB unless you TB Coolant bypassed, when its not bypassed the coolant warms the TB up for cold days but robs performance on a hot day, its a double edge sword.
I recently disconnected the AIR system from my engine. All that's left to do is remove the pump. I started to think what if the pump flow were to be reversed ? What I mean is an external filter placed on the inlet hose to the pump, and the outlet routed to the air box, and the pump controlled by an external switch.
Would this be considered semi forced air ?"
ive heard of people doing this on the gen III fbody 2.8l v6 and gaining 5 to 15 hp, but to me to do it on a ls base seems irrelevant and point less. now on to the AIT, i would move that away from the TB unless you TB Coolant bypassed, when its not bypassed the coolant warms the TB up for cold days but robs performance on a hot day, its a double edge sword.
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I haven't had my first cup of coffee yet, so please don't laugh
I recently disconnected the AIR system from my engine. All that's left to do is remove the pump. I started to think what if the pump flow were to be reversed ? What I mean is an external filter placed on the inlet hose to the pump, and the outlet routed to the air box, and the pump controlled by an external switch.
Would this be considered semi forced air ?
As I was looking at this pic. I just had another thought. My wife's Challenger has a CAI that has the AIT sensor relocated as far as possible from the TB. The claim is that it's better this way so that the sensor doesn't read the radiant heat coming from the TB and manifold.
I wonder what would be gained if my AIT sensor was to be relocated to the hole on the side of the lid.
Coffee's ready, gotta go
I recently disconnected the AIR system from my engine. All that's left to do is remove the pump. I started to think what if the pump flow were to be reversed ? What I mean is an external filter placed on the inlet hose to the pump, and the outlet routed to the air box, and the pump controlled by an external switch.
Would this be considered semi forced air ?
As I was looking at this pic. I just had another thought. My wife's Challenger has a CAI that has the AIT sensor relocated as far as possible from the TB. The claim is that it's better this way so that the sensor doesn't read the radiant heat coming from the TB and manifold.
I wonder what would be gained if my AIT sensor was to be relocated to the hole on the side of the lid.
Coffee's ready, gotta go
I've asked on here many times about using that air pump for an alternate vacuum source to replace the PCV vacuum line on the intake.......now that would be nice if that air pump could run constantly and not burn up.
No more oil in the intake for our engines is a goal of mine.
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I run two of these in series
With modified internals that I copied from here
05-17-2011, 04:40 PM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...elocation.html
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I do have the coolant line by passing the TB. What they are referring to is the radiant heat coming out the throat of the TB from the intake giving off a false reading. Dodge is now selling another after market CAI that also relocates the IAT
https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...elocation.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/pcm-diagn...elocation.html
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05-18-2011, 07:40 PM
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vacume pump for neg crank case pressure can boost hp.I have been suggesting this idea for yrs.I have run vac pumps on drag motors yrs ago,25 hp..it helps with ring sealing.swap the tube from the intake lid to the left valve cover and put a filter on the hose that went to the exhaust manifold.
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BTW JG Rider...how's that coffee? I also enjoy a hot beverage on occasion.
Heeeeyyyyy...if you were to run the outlet hose from the air pump to a steel tube mounted to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side and then bend up a line wrapped in header tape for insulation routed along side the tranny tunnel to carry the heated air up through the shifter hole boot and under the console into the bottom of the cupholder the 1.5 psi of boost may be enough to maintain sufficient temperature in any hot beverage (such as your coffe fine Sir) properly situated in the aforementioned cupholder...
Or I guess you could just get one of those Metal Cup Thermos Thingies at Starbucks. But you can't really add that to your signature's mod list so where's the fun in that?
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Wouldn't the AIR pump need a 100% Duty Cycle to pull that off? Otherwise it would burn itself up (I assume) or just smell really bad in traffic, or both.
BTW JG Rider...how's that coffee? I also enjoy a hot beverage on occasion.
Heeeeyyyyy...if you were to run the outlet hose from the air pump to a steel tube mounted to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side and then bend up a line wrapped in header tape for insulation routed along side the tranny tunnel to carry the heated air up through the shifter hole boot and under the console into the bottom of the cupholder the 1.5 psi of boost may be enough to maintain sufficient temperature in any hot beverage (such as your coffe fine Sir) properly situated in the aforementioned cupholder...
Or I guess you could just get one of those Metal Cup Thermos Thingies at Starbucks. But you can't really add that to your signature's mod list so where's the fun in that?
BTW JG Rider...how's that coffee? I also enjoy a hot beverage on occasion.
Heeeeyyyyy...if you were to run the outlet hose from the air pump to a steel tube mounted to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side and then bend up a line wrapped in header tape for insulation routed along side the tranny tunnel to carry the heated air up through the shifter hole boot and under the console into the bottom of the cupholder the 1.5 psi of boost may be enough to maintain sufficient temperature in any hot beverage (such as your coffe fine Sir) properly situated in the aforementioned cupholder...
Or I guess you could just get one of those Metal Cup Thermos Thingies at Starbucks. But you can't really add that to your signature's mod list so where's the fun in that?
05-19-2011, 12:26 AM
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05-19-2011, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by therealhitman 
Heeeeyyyyy...if you were to run the outlet hose from the air pump to a steel tube mounted to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side and then bend up a line wrapped in header tape for insulation routed along side the tranny tunnel to carry the heated air up through the shifter hole boot and under the console into the bottom of the cupholder the 1.5 psi of boost may be enough to maintain sufficient temperature in any hot beverage (such as your coffe fine Sir) properly situated in the aforementioned cupholder...
Heeeeyyyyy...if you were to run the outlet hose from the air pump to a steel tube mounted to the exhaust manifold on the passenger side and then bend up a line wrapped in header tape for insulation routed along side the tranny tunnel to carry the heated air up through the shifter hole boot and under the console into the bottom of the cupholder the 1.5 psi of boost may be enough to maintain sufficient temperature in any hot beverage (such as your coffe fine Sir) properly situated in the aforementioned cupholder...
Originally Posted by evoxm9
i like that coffee heater idea, but a bypass would be needed for when you want a cold drink to stay cold
i like that coffee heater idea, but a bypass would be needed for when you want a cold drink to stay cold
Originally Posted by garygnu
...I have run vac pumps on drag motors yrs ago,25 hp..it helps with ring sealing.swap the tube from the intake lid to the left valve cover and put a filter on the hose that went to the exhaust manifold.
...I have run vac pumps on drag motors yrs ago,25 hp..it helps with ring sealing.swap the tube from the intake lid to the left valve cover and put a filter on the hose that went to the exhaust manifold.
NEW IDEA ! How about routing the inlet hose to the grill and attaching the the outlet to the IAT, to help cool the IAT down. I need to go see about an air pressure gauge to measure the psi