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Old 01-17-2009, 11:04 AM
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I'm H/C/I and have Hedman 1 5/8 step to 1 3/4 headers..Ive been thinking of going with a 1 7/8 header..How much of a gain do you think it will be? I know in the future with bigger cubes it will show more,but on a 346 how much more will I gain over what I have now..
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i dunno as i have these too and was wondering the same thing even though i dont have heads yet. they are supposed to produce better torque with the stepped design.
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What car is this going on? F-body or Y-body (or other)?

FWIW, I'm going from Kooks 1-3/4" to Kooks 1-7/8" since I plan on going with a larger engine in the future. I'm expecting a little loss in throttle response down low, but who knows...I'll find out here in a few months once it warms up and I get them on. They'll be going on a bolt-on only LS1, so they probably won't be ideal.
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Originally Posted by MeentSS02
What car is this going on? F-body or Y-body (or other)?

FWIW, I'm going from Kooks 1-3/4" to Kooks 1-7/8" since I plan on going with a larger engine in the future. I'm expecting a little loss in throttle response down low, but who knows...I'll find out here in a few months once it warms up and I get them on. They'll be going on a bolt-on only LS1, so they probably won't be ideal.
its an fbody...right now its H/C/I and in an A4 it put down 434rwhp 407rwt when I had 3:23 gears..Added 3:73 and now puts down 425rwhp..Not that the dyno numbers matter just giving you an idea..I will move up to 400+ci in the fall and I know that the hedmans will hold me back when I do,but thinking they are already,and was curious to know by how much as it sits right now
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You probably will lose a little down low, but I would guess that you would gain some hp up top. TSP did a test on an engine dyno comparing 1-3/4" headers to 1-7/8" headers on a mostly stock LS1 and the 1-7/8" ones made quite a bit more power.
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Found the link
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...o-results.html
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So your dayton too huh lol? most of the threads I read showed no loss down low and gaind up top over a 1 3/4 header,but being as mine start as 1 5/8 I wonder how much it will be
actually have them installed but did it at the same time I put in my bigger stall(5c from circle d)so cant really tell but either way I'm sure it will help out when I step up in cubes..
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When are you have these headers put on?
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Originally Posted by TA1364
When are you have these headers put on?
they are on now..Tomorrow I'm dropping off sub frames,and spohn rear pro drag sway bar..
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Originally Posted by john563
So your dayton too huh lol? most of the threads I read showed no loss down low and gaind up top over a 1 3/4 header,but being as mine start as 1 5/8 I wonder how much it will be
actually have them installed but did it at the same time I put in my bigger stall(5c from circle d)so cant really tell but either way I'm sure it will help out when I step up in cubes..
Yep from Dayton. You live in the area?
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Originally Posted by john563
they are on now..Tomorrow I'm dropping off sub frames,and spohn rear pro drag sway bar..
Damn, you better take it to the track this year lol. I'll be back over the summer to make sure you dont forget.

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Yep from Dayton. You live in the area?
Looks like you gave in to putting a converter in you're car?
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Originally Posted by zracer323
Yep from Dayton. You live in the area?
mad river right next to the base..off of woodman
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edelbrock has a 1 3/4 stepped to 1 7/8 header, might do the trick
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ok, gears are not gonna hurt power on a dyno. nor make the car gain power on a dyno.

i have installed 1 3/4 headers on one car (2002) and 1 7/8 on another car
(2002) both cars were six speeds with the same modifications. the car with 1 3/4 headers made 15 more rwhp.

thats just my experience with header sizes, but to each is own. everyone has an opinion.
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[QUOTE=CodeRed2000SS;11000379]ok, gears are not gonna hurt power on a dyno.
there is a post on the dyno section about it now...This is my first hand experience with my gear swap..If you did not lose anything when you swapped thats great but in the thread you'll see that people have lost some
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Originally Posted by 02silvaZ
edelbrock has a 1 3/4 stepped to 1 7/8 header, might do the trick
Hell yeah! People dont give ol' Edelbrock enough credit around here. Their stainless stepped headers with a 3.5" collector is an excellent value. As I recall, they can be had in the mid to high $600 range. Bad ***!



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