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Old 04-16-2009, 04:48 PM
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I've been thinking about going with a Fast setup, but starting thinking about something different.

I used to have a carbed LS1 in my old mustang coupe and used a victor jr with awesome results.

Question, has anyone used a Victor Jr intake with a fabbed elbow and had good results?
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Common guys, nobody has tried a Victor Jr intake with the edelbrock elbow?
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I have the Victor Jr. with the edelbrock elbow but no real world test. I am switching to a 4 barrel TB setup and selling my elbow and TB to a buddy of mine. I will say that SOTP is a big gain from my old LS6 intake and 85mm BBK TB. I have pictures of the intake and elbow setup in my fquick page if your looking for ideas on a victor jr setup.
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id say go fast imo...
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Get the victor with a 4 barrel.
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Originally Posted by StreetStalkerZ
I have the Victor Jr. with the edelbrock elbow but no real world test. I am switching to a 4 barrel TB setup and selling my elbow and TB to a buddy of mine. I will say that SOTP is a big gain from my old LS6 intake and 85mm BBK TB. I have pictures of the intake and elbow setup in my fquick page if your looking for ideas on a victor jr setup.
Thanks man! I wanted something different compared to a fast $1300 setup.
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Yeah it is alot cheaper to go with the vic jr. set up. But at the same time if this is a DD car, your better off going with the fast set up.
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How big of a cowl is needed on the hood? 2 1/2" enough?
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It should be.
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Originally Posted by posz28
Yeah it is alot cheaper to go with the vic jr. set up. But at the same time if this is a DD car, your better off going with the fast set up.
It's not much cheaper,i will be honest about it. The reason for me going to the Vic. was more potential for power,will not blow up under a nitrous backfire and several options on elbows and TBs..not too mention eye candy .

My setup in the signature fits with plenty of room under my sunoco hood,so if you have a cowl hood or WS6 style hood then your good to go with the better elbows or 4 barrel style TBs. What ever you do do not buy the low profile edelbrock elbow,it will choke the life out of your airflow going into the plenum.
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I've pondered swapping my FAST 90/90 setup for this setup as well. My car is not a daily driver, is a high stalled automatic so I am not concerned with power below 3K and would be more interested from 5-7K rpm's. I'd LOVE to see an A vs B comparison on a dyno.
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Originally Posted by JFM-jr
I've pondered swapping my FAST 90/90 setup for this setup as well. My car is not a daily driver, is a high stalled automatic so I am not concerned with power below 3K and would be more interested from 5-7K rpm's. I'd LOVE to see an A vs B comparison on a dyno.
+1, I am going with the Vic/elbow setup. Should be a pretty stout bottle fed 346 when I am done. I can also go with a normal dual shot wet kit for carbed applications.
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Originally Posted by Vcious04
Common guys, nobody has tried a Victor Jr intake with the edelbrock elbow?
we just made over 650 na hp with a super victor and the edelbrock low profile elbow.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
we just made over 650 na hp with a super victor and the edelbrock low profile elbow.
Some of ya'll need to know they list 2 low profile. One is the one i refered to that will strangle airflow and it's the elbow that will clear the stock cowl and the other is the one in my sig,is this the one you made 650 na hp with?
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Wonder if this will fit under the stock SS hood?
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Originally Posted by StreetStalkerZ
Some of ya'll need to know they list 2 low profile. One is the one i refered to that will strangle airflow and it's the elbow that will clear the stock cowl and the other is the one in my sig,is this the one you made 650 na hp with?
Im not seeing **** in your sig as for which one you are using. The one we used is in the Drag Racing section in the picture posted by Texas Vortex.
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Originally Posted by Vcious04
Wonder if this will fit under the stock SS hood?
with a regular Victor Jr and the elbow we used it will fit. The elbow we used may be for sale with Nick Williams 90mm TB if we do go with the 4150 accufab TB.
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I made the swap last year from an LS6 to a Vic Jr. with one of Aaron's elbows. Don't look at as cost savings. The Vic will nickle and dime you to death with fittings and the elbow, etc. The elbow choked the whole setup in my case. Now I'm going with a 4150 TB with a carb plate and direct port setup.

The bad:
I lost alot of torque, but my nitrous setup wasn't optimal. In fact, I can now tell you that an LSX plate will not fow a wet shot through an elbow very well. The week prior to the swap I went 1.31 in the 60' on a 100 shot, and after the swap, I could only muster a 1.42 on a 200 shot. I'm not saying that every car will suffer like mine, but I have a 5500 stall and thought it wouldn't effect me.

The good:
The car kept wanting to pull. Even past 7000. I was having nose over problems with the LS6, and the Vic definately cured it. Once the car got moving, it felt faster than ever. Short shifting on the 200 shot my car went 10.03 with the Vic. Best I could muster on the 200 shot with the LS6 was a 10.07 (even with the 1.3's 60') So the improvement is there.

Just my .02, but if I had it to do over again, I would have gone with the FAST.
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
I made the swap last year from an LS6 to a Vic Jr. with one of Aaron's elbows. Don't look at as cost savings. The Vic will nickle and dime you to death with fittings and the elbow, etc. The elbow choked the whole setup in my case. Now I'm going with a 4150 TB with a carb plate and direct port setup.

The bad:
I lost alot of torque, but my nitrous setup wasn't optimal. In fact, I can now tell you that an LSX plate will not fow a wet shot through an elbow very well. The week prior to the swap I went 1.31 in the 60' on a 100 shot, and after the swap, I could only muster a 1.42 on a 200 shot. I'm not saying that every car will suffer like mine, but I have a 5500 stall and thought it wouldn't effect me.

The good:
The car kept wanting to pull. Even past 7000. I was having nose over problems with the LS6, and the Vic definately cured it. Once the car got moving, it felt faster than ever. Short shifting on the 200 shot my car went 10.03 with the Vic. Best I could muster on the 200 shot with the LS6 was a 10.07 (even with the 1.3's 60') So the improvement is there.

Just my .02, but if I had it to do over again, I would have gone with the FAST.
Did you recam the motor to a tighther LSA or run the same cam from the LS6 intake? if so, theres your entire problem right there. Carb style intakes, need carb nitrous plates not TB nitrous plates.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Did you recam the motor to a tighther LSA or run the same cam from the LS6 intake? if so, theres your entire problem right there. Carb style intakes, need carb nitrous plates not TB nitrous plates.
No, I didn't recam at all. No one even suggested it. Right now I run a 237/243 .597 .617 on a 112+4.

I figured the plate deal out the hard way She burped a couple times the last time the car was out (last Labor Day) I wanted to try it out, and it most definately didn't work. I have to learn alot of things the tough way up here. There aren't any late model type of shops. There's just me and a couple buddies that run LS1's. We try to do our own tuning and everything. It's a great learning experience, but I think I've worn a bald spot by scratching my head so much.


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