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Old 12-09-2003, 10:48 AM
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Does anyone have experience with this product yet?

I remember someone here saying that they were testing a prototype and it produced modest gains (10HP) in a naturally aspirated bolt-on car with stock displacement.

Is this correct; also is the price approxiumately $800?
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Originally Posted by robertbartsch
Does anyone have experience with this product yet?

I remember someone here saying that they were testing a prototype and it produced modest gains (10HP) in a naturally aspirated bolt-on car with stock displacement.

Is this correct; also is the price approxiumately $800?
Thanks..
We talked with Wilson Manifolds @ PRI on this. They did the development work and have their name on it. According to them, an LS6 manifold is 12 hp better than an LS1 and the LSX is 18 hp better than an LS6.

My take is that is fw hp, as engine development is most often done on engine dynos.

I think you are correct on the sticker price.
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It'll be interesting to see how much there is to gain by changing just the intake on a super charged or turbo car.
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They did have dyno numbers put in a mag and even a dyno graph of a stroker (400+cubes).

I think it was one of the Vette rags but not to sure which one. I tried searching but couldn't find it on their website
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Originally Posted by Old SStroker
We talked with Wilson Manifolds @ PRI on this. They did the development work and have their name on it. According to them, an LS6 manifold is 12 hp better than an LS1 and the LSX is 18 hp better than an LS6.

My take is that is fw hp, as engine development is most often done on engine dynos.

I think you are correct on the sticker price.
18 over the LS6 or over the LS1? if that is over the LS6 on a stock cubed motor that is awesome! 400+ cube motor will probably be seeing 30-40+ with a 90mm throttle body!
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I doubt that the 400+ cube motors will see more gains than the 346's. They probably will with the larger TB though.

The best thing was that the setup made power from 2000 all the way up. It was not just a peak gain.

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Im soo excited...I want this beast to come out, I think I might buy me one...they look like an awesome design and not long untill it hits the market.


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Figure ~$800 retail and we'll see how the gains work out.
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i'm always looking for all the hp i can get. if i gain 18 hp on my h&c car,i'm buying one. i still think i'll let some of you guys test it first.
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I'll be one of the first to test the 90mm version with the 90mm TB on a H/C 346 car. A 90MM MAF and 85mm TSP lid will be on the other end.
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
I doubt that the 400+ cube motors will see more gains than the 346's. They probably will with the larger TB though.

The best thing was that the setup made power from 2000 all the way up. It was not just a peak gain.

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thats what I said with the 90mm, and the statement, of 400+ cube motors not making more power with the intake the H/C cars, well I am going to disagree with you.
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I'll be one of the first to test the 90mm version with the 90mm TB on a H/C 346 car. A 90MM MAF and 85mm TSP lid will be on the other end.
Verbs, I think you and I have the earliest orders for that setup
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Originally Posted by Old SStroker
...According to them, an LS6 manifold is 12 hp better than an LS1 and the LSX is 18 hp better than an LS6...
If I'm doing the math right that means the LSX is 30hp better than the LS1? If that's an accurate number it sounds like an absolute no-brainer for the LS1 manifold guys.
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if i can get 30 extra hp at the crank, which is like what 25 at the wheels, i will get one for sure, double the price of the ls6 but double the gains. if this is true we will see some bolt on cars making some pretty impressive numbers...
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The Fast web site says 20 hp over the LS1. So what is the gain of the LS6 over the LS1? Then the difference will be what the LSX is over LS6. I guess that the LSX won't bring us as many ponies as I would like but does provide other benefits over the stock LS6 design.




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