Mistacamawo

I am putting a 224/224 114 lsa cam in my car in the next week. I have the stock manifold, stock headers, and a y-pipe with a cutout after it. Will that flow enough or do I need to get some headers? Also, are any good headers CA smog legal?

98SS Blackattack

You can do it W/O headers but you will only gain about 20hp. With headers the rest of the gain would be there.

deviate42

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like attack said, you can do it but you wont see much.

only shorties are legal in CA. The 224/224 will pass ca smog, so if you could sneak through the visual and at least get some mid's, youd be fine

LS6intake + Lt's is what you need

OWENMUSTANG

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the cut out will help. you need headers

ALPINE

it'll be a "newbie mod mistake" if you do it w/o any new headers. dont shoot yourself in the foot, if you dont think you can get away with at least midlengths put your cash else where....

equandt

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Your putting the cart before the horse here. I'd waive off on the cam install. Get some headers, an LS6 manifold, an ASP pulley and a ported TB before you stick that cam in...or you'll get to tune it twice.

You do have a lid and catback...right?

Mistacamawo

I was under the assumption that the stock tuning would work for my cam, will it not? I've got a suncoast creations ram-air hood and a catback system with a cutout after the Y. I've already got the cam, are you saying that I should not even install it? I will get headers eventually but I'm not sure if I can get LT's because of smog. If the LT's will still pass emmissions then I might get them I'm not as concerned about visual. What kind of ground clearance will the LT's give me? I am already lowered 1.5" and have to go over speedbumps sideways.

deviate42

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do a search. some LT's tuck up very nicely. stay away from SLP's.


if you run LT's be sure and get a nice set of cats.

you can get away without a tune with 224 on a 114.

is your car m6 or a4?

Mistacamawo

My car is an M6

Ferocity02

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I put in the same cam w/o headers. I noticed a HUGE increase in power. I love the cam. I plan on getting headers very soon so finish off the deal. Then I will get a dyno tune.

Mistacamawo

now that's what i wanted to hear! Thanks man.

Ferocity02

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Ok, but don't get me wrong, the others are right. I am and you will be cheating yourself out of the true potential of that cam. Headers should be your very next mod, but there is nothing wrong with having that cam and stock headers, you just won't have all of the power it can provide.

Mistacamawo

So if I put a pulley on it, is that a freebie for installation, meaning that it's something you do anyways? I've heard the ASP pulleys might need to be machined, how can you tell if they do or not?

jrp

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another guy put in the same cam with basically your same setup and put down 330rwhp m6. his system was completely chocked off.

if your going to go shorties and keep it smog legal i'd sell the cam (wont be hard to do) and get a smaller one under 224 duration; tr220 114, tsp 220 114, B1/T1, comps 216/220, 212/218, ect.

get LT's or at least macs if you plan to install the tr224, and you can run on stock tune but you'll really need a tune to take full advantage of the cam and delete codes and such.

i have an asp pulley and rollmaster double chain and there is no clearance issues and didnt have to have it shimmed.

greekss

headers r a beotch here in cali... id say best advice is if u can wait till ur next smog then install LT's or mids, then when its smog timw switch them out. That is what i plan to do.... because mid arent legal and shortys arent worth it, so i hear ??? But ya im in the bay area too... san mateo, if ya want i kno a bad *** exhaust shop that can help u out.

jrp

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ya, thats what i basically did, i bought the car in july 03 and they had to smog it before sale so im good for 2 years so i got a **** load of mods . im gonna have to swap out my duals for sure, and will most likely swap LT's as well.

MaxedOutSS99

I put my 224 before my headers, i had stock setup with flowmaster. Yea i noticed an increase. But with my new setup (see sig) i can feel it more now. I need to fix a couple problems then i will get it dyno tuned so you all cali guys can see what and emission legal setup puts out.....

2000WS6Vert

Sheesh...with the hoops you're required to jump through in CA...it would be worth it to have a pseudo out of state address and run around with Oregon, Nevado or NM tags!

jrp

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lol, believe me, i've thought about it. i might try and register my car as an off-road vehicle so it doesnt have to be smog and then just swap plates from my mr2 when i want to drive it around

RPM WS6

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So they don't let you keep CA plates on the car for "off-road" vehicles either? Wow they make it really hard to have fun with your cars there. Most states that have an exemption option for race or show cars still let you keep the regular state plates with the understanding that the car will only be driven to and from events, shows, etc. But the good news is, there is really no way for them to know if you're going to a race, show, event, etc., so it's no big deal just to drive it around on nice days and such.

So they won't let a 'race/show car' have CA plates? That sucks.