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Old 03-03-2011, 07:15 PM
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Hello guys, so its been like 6 months since i did my LTs and exhaust and my SES was throwing heater problem and PO135 and insufficient bla bla for the front O2's (both of them). ive been told it is common after LTs install. i do not have my rears anymore i lost them somewhere... car drives fine. no misfires no anything. my question is am i losing power?? i will be dynoing my car soon and i can get gm stock o2 for cheap should i go on and replace them with stockers? i know bosch and denso are great but what about acdelco? or should i just leave them alone? any advices are welcomed. thanks.
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Originally Posted by omarrakeen
Hello guys, so its been like 6 months since i did my LTs and exhaust and my SES was throwing heater problem and PO135 and insufficient bla bla for the front O2's (both of them). ive been told it is common after LTs install. i do not have my rears anymore i lost them somewhere... car drives fine. no misfires no anything. my question is am i losing power?? i will be dynoing my car soon and i can get gm stock o2 for cheap should i go on and replace them with stockers? i know bosch and denso are great but what about acdelco? or should i just leave them alone? any advices are welcomed. thanks.
My car throws the same code all the time. I ended up replacing both front 02's, I have the backs deleted, and the car continued to throw the ses light. IMO I would just leave the ones you have in there because it will probably do the same thing even after you replace them. When I hook the computer up to it the 02 is still functioning correctly but for some reason the computer doesnt like how they are responding. My light goes off and on and the car runs fine, been doing this for 2 years now. P.S. Dont go with the Bosch O2's they are junk. If you are going to replace them go with the stock delco's.
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i was told the stock O2's or the OEM replacements were bosch and i was in the same boat and it cost me 300 buck in O2's extensions and the shop time to install them i would just leave it as it is, after i threw 300 bucks at my SES code problem and it still throws a code every once and a while but them goes off.
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i was told the stock O2's or the OEM replacements were bosch and i was in the same boat and it cost me 300 buck in O2's extensions and the shop time to install them i would just leave it as it is, after i threw 300 bucks at my SES code problem and it still throws a code every once and a while but them goes off.
Not trying to be mean, but why would you pay $300 bucks for someone to install 02 extensions and 02's? They just clip right in to the stock plugs.
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Those are o2 heater malfunction codes and I got them after I installed lts. I noticed the cars idle was a little off. It turned out to be the o2s going bad.
I have the bosch 13111s for the vettes in there now and I dont get those codes anymore. But I still do get the common slow switching codes which dosent effect anything.
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denso's FTW!
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Originally Posted by senicalj4579
Those are o2 heater malfunction codes and I got them after I installed lts. I noticed the cars idle was a little off. It turned out to be the o2s going bad.
I have the bosch 13111s for the vettes in there now and I dont get those codes anymore. But I still do get the common slow switching codes which dosent effect anything.
Yeah.. They're a heated O2, so if they're throwing "heater codes" then they should be replaced. I've got a spare set laying around. Set of Delphis. Just wondering if I should replace mine any time soon. They're still the factory pieces. Was wwaiting for a LT swap to do it.
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Originally Posted by ws6fitz
Not trying to be mean, but why would you pay $300 bucks for someone to install 02 extensions and 02's? They just clip right in to the stock plugs.
i didnt i paid $75 a piece for the O2's $30 for the extensions and then the shop to remove and install the new one and delete the codes and the rear O2's was $80
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damn i was afraid to get these replies. i think am leaving them seems like comon O2 crap....ws6fitz and senicalj4579 are you guys still getting codes? and am i losting any hp\tq?? thanks.
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Originally Posted by omarrakeen
damn i was afraid to get these replies. i think am leaving them seems like comon O2 crap....ws6fitz and senicalj4579 are you guys still getting codes? and am i losting any hp\tq?? thanks.
No you shouldnt keep them in. IDK how your car isnt running like **** or a little off at this point. The first code you mentioned is not something you just leave so replace those. The slow switching codes are the ones thats common and ok.
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^ well car runs like wonder! i thot i replace them bcoz am going to be dynoing it in 2 weeks. i think ill just replace them and see. thanks guys
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Originally Posted by omarrakeen
damn i was afraid to get these replies. i think am leaving them seems like comon O2 crap....ws6fitz and senicalj4579 are you guys still getting codes? and am i losting any hp\tq?? thanks.
Yes still getting the codes. The SES light comes on for a couple days then goes off for a couple days. Replaced the 02's and continued to do the same thing.
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^ can you feel any difference in performance in idling, performance or mpg? am afraid that am leaving somethings on the table lol
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when i changed mine it seemed to idle a little better and im sure that doesnt hurt MPG/power
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Originally Posted by omarrakeen
^ can you feel any difference in performance in idling, performance or mpg? am afraid that am leaving somethings on the table lol
I can not feel a difference in performance. I have had the SES light on and off in the same day at the track and the car has performed exactly the same way. The only thing that will affect you is MPG when cruising around. When the SES light is on your fuel trims will not be used, so you will see worse MPG. Under wide open throttle the fuel trims are not used so you will not have any problems there. Hope that helps a bit.
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well i dont recall my old mpg..ill get them anyway and see what will happen. thanks everybody
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I got my Bosch 13111 vette rear O2's off eBay for 105 shipped for 2 of them.




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