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Old 11-11-2006, 12:14 AM
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Default Is Ls6 possibly better than Fast 90/90

Ive heard from more than one person people seeing losses in power with the fast setups over ls6 intakes. I was wondering if this is possibly true?

I will admit though, most of the very high cam only numbers have the fast 90/90.
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really depends on your application whether or not it's worth it.
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the LS6 isnt BETTER than the 90/90 but for the gains on certain cars, the 800$+ price tag is far from a good deal for the slight power it has over the ls6
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simple as this....

ls6 - for only bolt ons
90/90 - for h/c
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Originally Posted by RrCoX22
simple as this....

ls6 - for only bolt ons
90/90 - for h/c
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Screw it. Run the stocker. It is all hype really.

I will also have to agree with Ryan. I got my FAST after Heads and Cam and it made a world of difference. I was probably standing to gain quite a bit with the LS6 anyway though, but with my cam choices I figured that I will need to take it up a notch.
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While I believe a FAST 90-90 would add some power to my set up, I feel, for now, money is better spent on parts that will help put the power to the road: clutch, 12 bolt, tires, etc. YMMV
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I would wait on buying the FAST setup. I have gotten word from a couple of vendors that some new companies will introduce some new composite manifolds within a few months.
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More stuff will force a price drop.
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i hope i see a price drop bc i think ill need the fast 90 setup when i get my PRC heads and cam package from TSP.
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I have an 02 Z06 with ms3 cam , kooks longtubes and it made 435rwhp 395 rwtq.

With a vengenace ported fast 90mm and ls2 tb I pick up 33 rwhp and 21 rwtq for a total of 465 rwhp and 416 rwtq on STOCK heads still.
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If you swap to a Fast Intake you need to have it ported before you put it on. They typically don't pick up the big gains until they've been ported.
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Originally Posted by RrCoX22
simple as this....

ls6 - for only bolt ons
90/90 - for h/c
Then tell me how the fastest bolt-on LS1 on the country gained 2 mph after switching to a non-ported 90/90 from a LS6 and ported TB.

Not to mention that there are H/C cars with ported 90/90's that have gained 25+ rwhp.
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Originally Posted by Louie83
Then tell me how the fastest bolt-on LS1 on the country gained 2 mph after switching to a non-ported 90/90 from a LS6 and ported TB.

Not to mention that there are H/C cars with ported 90/90's that have gained 25+ rwhp.
if you believe that approximently $1000 is worth 2mph in the 1/4 that's fine...
but for a non h/c application the LS6 obviously is the smarter choice as a 90/90 may be "over doing it" (not saying you won't pick up any numbers)

the h/c application can utilize the 90/90 combo more effeciently as a LS6 would be considered a slight restriction... the ported 90/90 will net even more gains
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Originally Posted by Louie83
Then tell me how the fastest bolt-on LS1 on the country gained 2 mph after switching to a non-ported 90/90 from a LS6 and ported TB.

Not to mention that there are H/C cars with ported 90/90's that have gained 25+ rwhp.
Damn, calm down foo. DOn't be such a crybaby. Then tell me how...wawawa
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its not just the power gains, it's also when people pop the hood they really know you mean business
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Originally Posted by RrCoX22
if you believe that approximently $1000 is worth 2mph in the 1/4 that's fine...
but for a non h/c application the LS6 obviously is the smarter choice as a 90/90 may be "over doing it" (not saying you won't pick up any numbers)
But who buys the FAST 90/90 and intends to stick with the stock cam??

Nobody with an IQ above 20.

If you/anyone plans on a cam, just skip over getting the LS6 or FAST 78 and go straight for the 90. It won't cost any HP over a LS6 on a stock intenral LS1 but will be ready to make a serious gain after a cam.
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
But who buys the FAST 90/90 and intends to stick with the stock cam??

Nobody with an IQ above 20.

If you/anyone plans on a cam, just skip over getting the LS6 or FAST 78 and go straight for the 90. It won't cost any HP over a LS6 on a stock intenral LS1 but will be ready to make a serious gain after a cam.
you must have missed my post earlier in the thread...

Originally Posted by RrCoX22
simple as this....

ls6 - for only bolt ons
90/90 - for h/c
and also this one .... as i'm saying the exact same thing you are
Originally Posted by RrCoX22
if you believe that approximently $1000 is worth 2mph in the 1/4 that's fine...
but for a non h/c application the LS6 obviously is the smarter choice as a 90/90 may be "over doing it" (not saying you won't pick up any numbers)

the h/c application can utilize the 90/90 combo more effeciently as a LS6 would be considered a slight restriction... the ported 90/90 will net even more gains
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Originally Posted by that240guy
Damn, calm down foo. DOn't be such a crybaby. Then tell me how...wawawa
Relax.
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i too have seen several people who are less than satisfied and are going back to LS6 intakes. IMO, LS6 is fine... untill you need a single plane carbed intake or a sheet metal. go big or go home



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