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Old 11-22-2006, 06:36 PM
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When i put on my FTRA and Granatelli MAF (both at once) i gained 3 mph in the 1/4 mile. It was consistent 107, and is consistent 110 mph now.

I wouldn't have even bought an aftermarket maf but i got such an awesome deal i couldn't pass it up.

I've read all about how the stock mafs are good to like 500 rwhp but is it maybe possible it contributed to the mph increase? Or is it just the ram air that helped?

Reason is, i might try to sell the MAF if its not really doing me any good...input please!
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or maybe.....U just had a better run...
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What were the conditions of both times to the track? same track? same elevation if not the same track?
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Don't the aftermarket MAFs just make you run lean which results in the temporary power gain before the PCM adjusts the air/fuel?
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DSMers use 3 and 3.5 GM MAFs to way beyond 500WHP levels of airflow. I dont think it would be of much use unless you maybe had a 90/90 setup or the new Aussie intake for the L92 or whatever.

Im guessing it was track conditions more thn anything. But then, who knows. Maybe the new MAF is more accurately repoting airflow than you old one for some reason.
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Originally Posted by Red99TA
Don't the aftermarket MAFs just make you run lean which results in the temporary power gain before the PCM adjusts the air/fuel?
no, normally they stay running lean till you do another mod and go to lean and blow up, but that isn't to common. Usualyl someone will go to get a car tuned and th tuner won't like the aftermarket maf..lol.
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^ Thanks, I'm not too smart on MAFs since I run without one
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What were the conditions of both times to the track? same track? same elevation if not the same track?
Same track. Everything is the same. Before the FTRA/MAF i ran consistent 107 mph exactly. 30 or 40 runs total. 107 exactly. The next week after the mods i'm running 110 mph consistent - 15 runs maybe so far all of them 110 mph.
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Originally Posted by tacklebox
When i put on my FTRA and Granatelli MAF (both at once) i gained 3 mph in the 1/4 mile. It was consistent 107, and is consistent 110 mph now.

I wouldn't have even bought an aftermarket maf but i got such an awesome deal i couldn't pass it up.

I've read all about how the stock mafs are good to like 500 rwhp but is it maybe possible it contributed to the mph increase? Or is it just the ram air that helped?

Reason is, i might try to sell the MAF if its not really doing me any good...input please!

got pics of the FTRA????
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I would have to assume that most of the MPH gains were from the FTRA. I have the SSRA2 which is similar to the FTRA and I gained 15 horsepower on the dyno jet. My camaro aleady had the ported TB and the SLP lid and a small fan was blowing air towards the car's radiator. Check out the link below for the dyno graphs. I can't wait to take the car to the dragstrip as I think I will also run 110 MPH trap speeds with just the mods that I mentioned along with the good weather mod.

'02 A4 Z28 w/PTB dynoes@298...after SLP lid, dynoes@303...after SSRA2, dynoes@318!
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The FTRA did it.The Maf is worth nothing.
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i would have to say that you picked up mph from the ftra..for example my ws6 always trapped 109-111 with only a lid and catback yet my friends ss with the same mods traps 107..the ws6's have a much better ram air setup then the ss
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I used to see a 1-2 mph increase with the SSRA when I had one.

1,2,3 mph increases from small mods are great, but weather/temps could have the same amount of impact on your mph.
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There's one VERY easy way to find out what the MAF is doing. It's not hard to put the stocker back on. Slap it back on and go run with just the FTRA
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Originally Posted by Frosty
There's one VERY easy way to find out what the MAF is doing. It's not hard to put the stocker back on. Slap it back on and go run with just the FTRA
That's what i'll do tomorrow night.
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Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage
no, normally they stay running lean till you do another mod and go to lean and blow up, but that isn't to common. Usualyl someone will go to get a car tuned and th tuner won't like the aftermarket maf..lol.
brandon is right, i had a granatelli and it leaned the crap out of my car. it felt great and even my buddy noticed a difference when i reverted back to stock, but i would never run it again. a small noticable gain is not worth risking blowing up my car. i now run a stock maf and a ftra and am happy with that setup. it also allows me to continue to mod with the reassurance of not running too lean. here's a dyno graph of my car with just the granatelli maf, a lid and a catback *please note the A/F ratios):
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But if your running too lean, can't you just get a tune to take care of that?
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A lot of tuners say it's really hard to get everything dead on with the aftermarket MAF's. Not to mention that it's creating a little more power because it IS running lean.
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Originally Posted by tacklebox
But if your running too lean, can't you just get a tune to take care of that?
if im not mistaken, they have some sort of thingy in them that kinda overrides the computer to tune to its own liking. i can be wrong... a matter-of-fact i dont even remember where i heard that and for all i know i may have made that up.
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Originally Posted by qwikz28
brandon is right, i had a granatelli and it leaned the crap out of my car. it felt great and even my buddy noticed a difference when i reverted back to stock, but i would never run it again. a small noticable gain is not worth risking blowing up my car. i now run a stock maf and a ftra and am happy with that setup. it also allows me to continue to mod with the reassurance of not running too lean. here's a dyno graph of my car with just the granatelli maf, a lid and a catback *please note the A/F ratios):
From looking at the graph and squinting my eyes, it looks like you're somewhere in between 13.5 and 14.0. What is you're air/fuel ratio exactly?


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