WhitePheonix

hey guys Im thinking about doing the smooth bellow thing by buying a rubber connector for like a dollar since I work at a hardware store. My questions are as follows:
1. What is the diameter and length of the connector
2. I appreciate as much direction and help as possible, as
I need explicit directions when I work on cars are put
**** together, cause I #@*% up easy
3. What are the negatives associated with this mod and what
are the positives

soundengineer

iTrader: (16)

3" x 3" fernco will be about 6" long at the most. its made of rubber...comes with 2 hose clamps....goes in with a little flexin'... advantage:allows air to stay smooth and helps smooth it out more. better than $50 bellows cause of no "rib" and cheaper
disadvantage: takes a little flexin' to get it in place...might have to shave it a little to fit if you got a "lid"

WhitePheonix

I know you posted before (but I cant find it) about putting the connector in the oven.....how hot...how long?

Venkman

iTrader: (4)

microwave it for 30-45 secs, should be enough to make it nice and soft

compaq

i always boiled some water with the fernco in it, then ran outside and tied to get it to fit. fits like a $5 glove!

WhitePheonix

I just looked at my car, why does the diameter look like it would be about 5"

WhitePheonix

Also what do I do, just loosen it off the MAF and the TB, leaving both in place?

soundengineer

iTrader: (16)

pvc pipe is measured on the inside....this thing is made to fit on the outside of the pvc...It Fits!!! Trust Us!!! 3" Fernco...go to home depot and buy it!!!

WhitePheonix

I trust you, now on the install, all I do is unbolt the original?

soundengineer

iTrader: (16)

yip! it was easier for me to piece it together from the throttle body to the front...1 piece at a time...fernco onto TB...MAF onto Fernco...FLEX!!!....Lid onto MAF(dont forget all the clamps) tighten everthing up make sure all teh sensors are conected...start 'er up...you'll notice a little difference(not very much) at higher rpm's and speed on the highway.

DARK AGE 53

I don't mean to **** anyone off but for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would want to use the "toilet bowl hose? I understand some of the bellows cost more then what we would like but isn't your car worth it, the last I knew the Baker hose was selling for something like $25. The correct hose size ( I.D ) needs to be 3 1/2" X 3 3/4". JMO

Al

WhitePheonix

Who sells the baker hose

DARK AGE 53

Call Baker at 1-800-959-7757, I think they still make them in black, red, they may have another color also. I see you have a Trans Am, as far as I know the Camaro hose will work. If you get one let me know and I'll e-mail you some pics of the install.

99_1LE_Z

or go here. And find one that fits your needs

2K2CamaroSS

iTrader: (18)

when you're all done with getting the fernco on it'll look like this

Colonel

Which size, the 3.5"?

soundengineer

iTrader: (16)

I hope you realize that the 3" fernco inside diameter of the rubber is 3-5/8"....
an 1/8" flex is no big deal for rubber...it fits like a glove. 3" refers to the inside diameter of pvc...the wall of the pvc adds another 5/8" to the thickness. the Fernco is made to go on the outside of the pvc pipe. its rubber....and its smooth on the inside...wit no "single Rib" like other company's bellows...it only costs $5. you could have bought one by now...put it on your car...and this discussion wouldn't have to keep going on about the same thing. does the bellows work???? only massive power builders will really see any difference...

Larry

iTrader: (4)

I would have to see dyno numbers to believe this smooth bellows would make a difference. The passage in the factory bellows is so much larger than the throttle body. Even with some turbulence the cfm through the bellows has to be greater than the throttle body.

Show me dyno numbers and prove me wrong. If it really increases hp I will gladly buy one. I don't want one that is going to crack my lid or pull it off with engine torque.

soundengineer

iTrader: (16)

its rubber...and it flexes.....you will have no lid cracking problens with the fernco bellows version.

Matt98ls1

iTrader: (2)

I had originally installed the Fernco, but took it off when I put my Direct-flo lid on. It felt like the lid would be under more stress than I would have liked, and didnt want to crack the lid due to a $4 piece of rubber and a .5 hp gain. Just my thought