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Old 08-09-2008, 12:16 PM   #1
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Question how much hp gain...power steering delete???

how much hp do u gain by deleting the power steering??? it frees up drag on the motor by not having to turn the power steering pump/pulley

also how much hp is freed up by removing the a/c belt???
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how much hp do u gain by deleting the power steering??? it frees up drag on the motor by not having to turn the power steering pump/pulley

also how much hp is freed up by removing the a/c belt???
i may be wrong but i dont think you get a whole lot out of !ps and !ac, i think it's mainly for the decrease in nose weight. i'd like to know as well though.
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ya i have plenty weight off the nose! power steering and a/c delete and removed sway bar and bumper reinforcement.

i also removed my evap, egr, AIR, washer reservior!

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oh and custom PCV (had to go look under the hood to see if i missed anything lol)
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ya i have plenty weight off the nose! power steering and a/c delete and removed sway bar and bumper reinforcement.

i also removed my evap, egr, AIR, washer reservior!

CLEAN-LOOKING ENGINE BAY!!!
Why would you take out the sway bar? And it's fine taking out the reingorcement, unless you crash. How much would you say you took out? Weight I mean. I can't see some of that making much of a difference. Did you relocate your battery?
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i removed the front sway bar because it helps transfer weight to the back for racing. altogether, ive removed about 220lbs off of the car. i still have the battery under the hood but plan on relocating it to the trunk. what ive listed above in my previous posts is the things ive removed to lighten the front end
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any write up on how to preform these mods on a 2000 6 speed trans am very interested if so.
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Do a search on what to change. I'm not sure what is involved but you can reroute the belt to bypass the Power steering pump. I think you have to buy a different lenght bent though. Try it out and see what you think for yourself. Or buy a new k member with a manual rack.
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TRANSAMSAM98, which mods r u wanting help on? i can help. ive done the mods myself and have had no problems when doing mods
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Its nice as far as cleaning up the engine bay - but I don't think its enough power gained to warrant having a hard time in an emergency maneuver (like at medium speeds).
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51.5" belt

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eh.....i only notice the p/s delete at low speed turning or turning the wheels from a stop. at a stop, contact area on tires has friction with the road so its harder to turn. highway speeds feels just like having p/s because of less friction
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mine is a street car so im gonna keep it all. only full race cars have clean engine bays. plus i think its fun to squirt the windshield.
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ya i have plenty weight off the nose! power steering and a/c delete and removed sway bar and bumper reinforcement.

i also removed my evap, egr, AIR, washer reservior!

I am interested in learning how to remove all of them as well as doing the pcv mods.

just a how to write up would be fantastic but a how to with pics would be ******* amazing. I am building up a street stip car and feel I have unuff uper body where power steering wont matter anyways. my ac is never used and I love cold weather so the heat will be coming out as well.
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Now all you need is an electric WP. Any pics with the motor in a car?
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OR you can just get an EWP and before making a run at the track, take the belt off all together. A friend of mine with a C5 took two tenths off his ET in the 12s that way.
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an electric water pump is on my list as well. with an electric water pump the belt would only need to strech from the crank to the alt correct? now would you be able to do that while using an underdrive pulley?
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P/S DELETE
1. remove lines from pump and p/s cooler
2. pull p/s pump pulley with a pulley puller
3. remove the 2 10mm bolts that hold the pump to the bracket
4. remove bolts on bracket to remove bracket
5. remove idler pulley on alternator bracket
6. use an open end wrench to remove p/s lines from rack

A/C DELETE
1. remove high pressure line from condensor and accumulator
2. remove accumulator
3. remove lines attached to condensor
4. remove compressor
5. now u can also remove the a/c idler and tensioner pulleys and bracket
6. remove airlid to remove condensor
7. use a dremel to hack away at black box on firewall
8. pull out evaporator from inside black box
9. block off opening with a blockoff plate (can buy or make your own)

EGR/AIR DELETE
1. remove 10mm bolt that holds egr tube to top of intake manifold
2. remove 2 10mm bolts on the exhaust manifold
3. unplug valve and remove bolt that holds on bracket
4. remove 10mm bolts that hold AIR tubes on both exhaust manifolds
5. remove the 4 bolts to AIR pump on driver side (under fuse box)
6. undo hoses from the vaccuum cansiter (round, 3 hoses merge here)
7. you can also unplug the valve and remove it (driver side, intake manifold)
8. block off vaccuum line on back of intake manifold

EVAP DELETE
1. unplug and remove EVAP canister
2. block off tube on intake manifold
3. remove EVAP line (metal pre-bent line)
4. drop gas tank or make access door (whichever you prefer)
5. remove plastic tube from EVAP charcoal canister
6. remove EVAP charcoal canister on top of gas tank
7. install a breather on tube coming off of tank

PCV MOD
1. remove bolt on PCV valve wire
2. remove all PCV hoses
3. block off small tubes on passenger side valve cover
4. install a breather in hole in back of driver side valve cover
5. install a breather oil cap
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the pick of the shortbelt mod is a pic i found on the internet
yes u can run a really short belt from the crank to the alternator if u have an electric water pump

transamsam98, washer reservior comes off by removing the 4 push-in clips, unplug harness first

FRONT BUMPER REINFORCEMENT DELETE
1. remove push-in clips along top of bumper cover inside hood
2. remove push-in clips along bottom of bumper cover
3. remove 8 bolts that hold reinforcement on (4 bolts per side)
***ADVICE*** break styrofoam impact absorber in to pieces to remove all syrofoam. metal bracket should have enough room to slide out without having to remove the whole bumper cover
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thank you for the write ups man greatly apreciated
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