Any clearance issues MS3 cam with CNC heads milled .030 with 2.02/1.57 valves
10-14-2008, 07:10 AM
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Any clearance issues MS3 cam with CNC heads milled .030 with 2.02/1.57 valves OK couldnt find this specifically with a search, but its a simple question. I have a 98 with CNC heads milled .030 with 2.02/1.57 valves . They are the stockers, but seem to flow pretty good so I am hanging on to them for a while. My current cam is a 232/236/598/602 on a 112+4
So my question is, will the MS3 cam fit without flycutting or will there be any clearance issues?
So my question is, will the MS3 cam fit without flycutting or will there be any clearance issues?
10-14-2008, 10:01 AM
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Honestly I'd consider checking p/v on the camshaft your currently running. We don't typically like to see that much milling with bigger valves & no flycutting. If you can get us the clearances on that camshaft, I can help calculate p/v based off swapping camshafts.
The MS3 will not clear at all though
The MS3 will not clear at all though
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10-14-2008, 10:12 AM
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My current cam is a Futral custom grind 232/236/598/602 on a 112+4. That is all I have, I dont have any other numbers. It is fine, no clearance issues, been in there for about 1000 miles and dynoed at 410rwhp 385rwtq with that cam, and these heads and a couple bolt ons. I didnt think the MS3 was that much bigger, so I was hoping. Trying to squeeze a little more out of it.
10-14-2008, 10:16 AM
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Based off of that can you suggest something bigger that will still clear and give me more? Or something else? I have done a couple things since the last dyno, and have a couple more small things to do, but I doubt I am gonna get much out of them. I was hoping another cam might give me what I want.
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10-14-2008, 05:55 PM
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There is no problem flycutting the stock pistons. You could grab some aftermarket heads and pick up some power or flycut and add a larger cam to pick up power, its kinda hard to tell what to do in that situation. Flycutting and putting a larger cam would probably be the cheaper way but would be more work. Going with the heads would probably cost more but be easier because you would not have to flycut. I will have to leave that one up to you.
10-14-2008, 07:38 PM
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OK couldnt find this specifically with a search, but its a simple question. I have a 98 with CNC heads milled .030 with 2.02/1.57 valves . They are the stockers, but seem to flow pretty good so I am hanging on to them for a while. My current cam is a 232/236/598/602 on a 112+4
So my question is, will the MS3 cam fit without flycutting or will there be any clearance issues?
So my question is, will the MS3 cam fit without flycutting or will there be any clearance issues?
10-14-2008, 07:50 PM
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There is no problem flycutting the stock pistons. You could grab some aftermarket heads and pick up some power or flycut and add a larger cam to pick up power, its kinda hard to tell what to do in that situation. Flycutting and putting a larger cam would probably be the cheaper way but would be more work. Going with the heads would probably cost more but be easier because you would not have to flycut. I will have to leave that one up to you.
10-14-2008, 08:06 PM
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For 500rwhp your COMBO has to be perfect on a 346. Anything over 450/460 is gravy on an honest dyno unless you have a butload of Ca$h and then your still cheaper going iron 402/408. Decide your budget and pick how to optimize. I doubt you wanna spend what it takes to get 500rwhp outta a lil' ole 346
10-14-2008, 08:21 PM
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Well I was at 410/384 with a dead coil, wrong spark plugs, stock MAF and throttle body and smaller lid on the current setup on a stingy dyno. I have since installed an SLP UD pulley, SLP 85mm MAF, 85mm lid, new correct plugs, new coils, and 85mm throttle body. So if all I am gonna get is another 40 with heads and another cam, I am not too sure I wanna spend another $2500. Hell I barely have $5000 in the whole car including mods right now.
I am eventually gonna either buy a bottom end or build one, and figured the heads I get now will work with a new shortblock.
I am eventually gonna either buy a bottom end or build one, and figured the heads I get now will work with a new shortblock.
10-14-2008, 08:30 PM
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Your not even gonna get close to 500RWHP with stock heads. The most I have ever heard of was something like 45xRWHP and that was with pretty much every bolt on. Get a good set of TrickFlow heads, Mill them a little bit and put a bigger cam in it and you might have a shot at getting 470+
10-15-2008, 06:31 PM
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Honestly the cam you currently have is one of the cams we use with the Trick Flow 215's. The nice thing with the TFS head is you to gain a little PtV over a stock cylinder head. If you do want a bigger cam, Allan or myself can spec you something out and get you going.
