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Old 06-22-2009, 08:37 PM
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Default Sleeper setup idea!

The car will be a stock looking 01-02 Z28.

RMVB TH350 trans (stock shifter)
3600 stall
12 bolt 3.73 gears
Advanced induction ported 241s
215/230 .629/.592 117 LSA cam
Stock exhaust manifolds with gutted cats
Stock exhaust with a 3" electric cutout
Stock air lid
Ported throttle body
Money maker nitrous kit running a 125whp tuneup, with the bottle in a gym bag behind the driver seat (everyone knows about putting it in the spare tire well).
Racetronix pump kit
All tuned on HPtuners
MT ET Street 26x11.5-16 on stock wheels

It should make around 400whp on the motor and around 525whp on the unit, all while looking stock as hell. Should be a pretty reliable setup too.
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this setup looks great very stealth the cam is very close to a tr cheatr cam Pat G just made a new cam for stock manifolds and it made great power. your goal should be made with my cheatr and 241 heads ported by mti made over 400rwhp I also like the gym bag idea
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Originally Posted by Garrett114
this setup looks great very stealth the cam is very close to a tr cheatr cam Pat G just made a new cam for stock manifolds and it made great power. your goal should be made with my cheatr and 241 heads ported by mti made over 400rwhp I also like the gym bag idea
Thanks man!

Car would surprise people on and off the bottle.
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I love it !
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+1 on the gym bag idea, very creative
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Originally Posted by TooLateVTEC
I love it !
Thanks man, should surprise the hell out of people.
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+1 on the gym bag idea, very creative
I have seen it done a couple times before.
Everyone overlooks a gym bag lol.
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you could port the stock exh. manifolds for a little gain people say that they can flow as good as shorty headers
some weight reduction that is not obvious (gutted car) would help to
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Originally Posted by kevin99hoss
you could port the stock exh. manifolds for a little gain people say that they can flow as good as shorty headers
some weight reduction that is not obvious (gutted car) would help to
Not gonna waste my time porting the manifolds. If anything I'll jet the unit 5whp more lol.

I was planning on taking out both bumper supports, and removing all the sound deadening.
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Do it and then sell it to me
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Well the nitrous nozzles are pretty easy to find. Either in the bellow or dry in the air lid. So that will not be to hard to find. Then the rest of the setup sounds interesting.
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Do it and then sell it to me
LOL, it wouldn't be that much to do. You can find those trannies for cheap as hell, and you can get used 12 bolt off of here.

The other mods wouldn't be that much either.
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gym bag is a bad *** idea, wish i thought of it.
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Originally Posted by RsSean
Well the nitrous nozzles are pretty easy to find. Either in the bellow or dry in the air lid. So that will not be to hard to find. Then the rest of the setup sounds interesting.
The money maker setup he is referring to is totally diff than what you're suggesting. And, I'd bet good money you'd never find it...they are hidden very well.

Another idea would be a Fast intake with the logos ground off and painted black...

Also, rather than a Camaro, I'd recommend a Formula and using turn down tips like the V6 with dual exhaust had. They look like a V6 sitting still...

Here is my "sleeper" similar-ish setup (minus the TH350 & 12 bolt) and ran 10.50's with a 10 bolt and 3.23's and a 125 shot that was hidden pretty well. (Heater hose does a great job of coving up stainless braid line)..and yes, this picture is on a u-haul after I finally trashed the motor after many years of abuse...I will say this, my car has been on the same 10 bolt and 4L60E that it came with. It has been a street/strip heads/cam/converter car since it had 20,000 miles on it. I finally threw a rod at 87,000 miles by making a mistake in the burnout box...and I think mid 11's on motor isn't too shabby for the car (I ran it exactly as pictured below).


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The moneymaker is a wet kit, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's supplied off the schrader valve on the fuel rail... That's easy to spot. Also, anyone racing should be able to identify the difference between the pan on a Turbo 350 vs. 4L60e. You don't think people would wonder why a "stock" car has an overkill 12 bolt rear end in it, let alone why it's sitting on a slick? At least go with an ET Street Radial, or get it to work on a 315 nitto. Taking the bumper supports out will make the front fascia sag, and you can see that the split second you pop the hood. There is "stealth" and real stealth.
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I think its a bad *** idea! Kinda like my car, a stock looking SS, all that can be seen is my GMMG tips. But honestly if you out trying to get a race who crawls under a car. All of my suspension parts are red but nobody crawls under the car to notice. Its at stock ride height so it must have stock suspension right?
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Originally Posted by Bird_Of_Prey
The moneymaker is a wet kit, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it's supplied off the schrader valve on the fuel rail... That's easy to spot. Also, anyone racing should be able to identify the difference between the pan on a Turbo 350 vs. 4L60e. You don't think people would wonder why a "stock" car has an overkill 12 bolt rear end in it, let alone why it's sitting on a slick? At least go with an ET Street Radial, or get it to work on a 315 nitto. Taking the bumper supports out will make the front fascia sag, and you can see that the split second you pop the hood. There is "stealth" and real stealth.
It had a different way to tie into the fuel system...

And, what are they doing under your car looking at the pan? What about the Ford 8.8, would that be easier to hide and still be stout?


Also...why not build it as a 383 while you're doing this? It would still be stock appearing...

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A 10 bolt can go a long way in a light car with the right converter and suspension.

I've had people crawl all around my car looking for parts/nitrous/whatever. It's part of the game. Remember to have a "show" nitrous kit, that you're willing to disconnect
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Originally Posted by evilbird
gym bag is a bad *** idea, wish i thought of it.
Works pretty well lol
Originally Posted by FormulaZR
The money maker setup he is referring to is totally diff than what you're suggesting. And, I'd bet good money you'd never find it...they are hidden very well.

Also, rather than a Camaro, I'd recommend a Formula and using turn down tips like the V6 with dual exhaust had. They look like a V6 sitting still...
I'm gonna stick with a Z28.
Originally Posted by Bird_Of_Prey
anyone racing should be able to identify the difference between the pan on a Turbo 350 vs. 4L60e. You don't think people would wonder why a "stock" car has an overkill 12 bolt rear end in it, let alone why it's sitting on a slick? At least go with an ET Street Radial, or get it to work on a 315 nitto. Taking the bumper supports out will make the front fascia sag, and you can see that the split second you pop the hood. There is "stealth" and real stealth.
Most people would probably not notice the 12 bolt.
All the car would be is a cutout/tire car lol
Also, might not take out the supports.
Originally Posted by Bird_Of_Prey
A 10 bolt can go a long way in a light car with the right converter and suspension.

I've had people crawl all around my car looking for parts/nitrous/whatever. It's part of the game. Remember to have a "show" nitrous kit, that you're willing to disconnect
I know a 10bolt would "work", although I would like to not have to worry about the rear every time I make a pass.

A show kit works pretty well, but not needed if you hid the real kit well enough.
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Just remember, you're pretty much busted out the first time you make a pass and trap 125 in a stock car. A hidden dry setup is much better suited for little love taps when you need it. Wet kits don't like on/off/on/off/off/off/on
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This setup is very similar to my Trans Am from a few years ago. It was a very fun project. The gym bag with nitrous is definitely an old street racers trick. Many a competitor fell prey to the "bag of nitrous". You should have a blast with it.
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