7camaro7

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I've got a 2002 Camaro SS Vert m6. I'm looking at vrx3,4 and torquer v2. I plan on staying with stock gears and to daily drive mine. I'd like to know which would make the fastest daily driver. I don't care about dyno numbers necessarily. Speed is all that matters to me.

teke184

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my torquer V1 on stock heads with a FAST is great on the street...other than the touchy clutch (stg 4 w/alum fw).

1200-1500rpm is not big deal around town.

mild city i get 17-19mpg
80mph windows down, ttops off (makes a noticable difference) i get 25mpg

made the numbers in the sig

all that and i've got the stock 3.42s in it...with the dif girdle.



any of the cams in the low 23x should be great

BAD2000TA

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Two HIGHLY subjective things in your post. Daily Driver and Speed. There are lots of opinions and subjectivity in the terms "daily driver" and "speed". Regarding Speed, what are you talking? Top end? 0-60? 40-100? As for Daily Driver, I would assume you mean a smooth idle, no surging or bucking in low gears? To obtain smoothness, 50% will be in the correct tune. But, stock gears will limit some wildness in the cam choice. It all depends on your goals. Everybody thinks you need a big 230-240 cam to be fast. But, it's all about the correct combination. Search on Tony Mamo's builds. Little 224/228 cam and he's in the 470 rwhp. But, that's dyno number that you don't care about.

All I can tell you is my own experiences. For the stock LS1 that was in the car originally, I used MTI's Stealth II cam. It was a 224/220 with .570ish lift. But, the key was the stock idle and driving temperment. It was like stock under 2500 rpm. But, hit it and it would haul all the way to 6500 rpm. Very nice street cam.

I now have a 383 and use a 224/230 with .609ish lift. Again, basically stock idle and driving temperment, but above 2500 it hauls! Houston traffic can be murder, so having a cam that can behave in traffic in nice.

Good luck.

Juicy J

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The Torquer is not a bad choice at all. I think something in the low to mid 230's would do the trick. I personally wouldn't go with anything under a 230. People that do often end up wanting to go bigger not far down the road.

I think the Torquer would make good power, and make some decent times. It would be very daily drivable, but still make the power you want. I don't think stock gears would be a problem at all, but of course you would benefit from gears.

1Loudz28

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v2.

i have the f13, very similar, drives great around town and has a pretty wide power band. and i still get around 20-24 on the freeway with the cam and full boltons

ramdaspadhye

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if it's a daily, I'd go with the torquer v2 out of the ones you mentioned. Get it tuned for sure.

Bulldog0082

Tsp 228r

Sales2@Texas-speed

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228R is a great camshaft. We also just finished some new lobes & have a 229/234 camshaft that would be awesome in your application. It's a little bit smaller than the Torquer V2, but made better average power on the engine dyno. If your looking at a torquer checkout the V3. It's has better power across the board compared to a V2.

toothdoc

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I agree about the 228R. Got mine from Texas Speed.

codysgto

Right now I am DD my goat with stock gears and its not bad at all. Just get a street tune.

7camaro7

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don't know if I said this before in another thread, but looks like you're into modding your car in the same direction as I am with mine. Fast roadracer...

Never considered torquer v1... Thanks for your suggestion, I'll look into it.

btw, does the dif girdle really help?Subjective... Daily driver and speed...

My version of a daily driver is the most race car I can put on the street for my money. Speed, not I am not doing 150+ 7days a week. I am into acceleration mainly up to a 1/4 mile. I know my suspension mods are not catered 100% to the 1/4 mile, but they're that way for a reason.

Assuming smooth idle and buck free and surging... all that..., I love rough idle, don't care if it bucks every now and then, I'll tame it. Surging, I don't want my car trying to get to 3500rpm randomly.

Here's my mission statement... I want to keep stock gears in my car for now and I want the best cam that will make my car the fastest for what it is, with what I have.

Like I said, I do not care about dyno numbers. I know there's a corelation between hp and et, but I am not going for the dyno numbers. I want the cam that will lower my 1/4mile et the most for what I have and still drive it everyday.

I intend to skip that, "I should've bought a bigger cam syndrome," that a lot of people get with the 22x cams. I want the cam that will make my full bolton car the fastest it can be with stock heads/gears and still drive it everyday.

BAD2000TA, You just helped me state more clearly what I wanted, thanks

Thanks everyone else for your input, I'm still listening...

tsp tell me more about the 228r and the v3, please

everybody else keep throwing out suggestions.

Zach79Z

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IMO id run the VRx3 and geta fast 90/90

7camaro7

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I think I'll be sticking with my ls6... FAST90/90 aren't very cost efficient for what I've got now.

Zach79Z

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I hear ya on that. IMO id still run the VRx3 cam. Seen alota people use them in daily drivers

yellowjacketfever

i have the tsp torquer 2 settup. it is a special grind cam. 238/248 @50 600/605 112 lsa. and it is a very great dailey driver. car shakes like all heck at idle, and has a low end of about 1500 to 2000 rpm. at 3500 it will just flat lay you back in the seat all the way to 7000 rpm. my tunner did have to increase the idle by 200 rpm for stalling in a turn at idle while trying to park... i have a little room to still play with this cam. i am at 399rwhp and 389 rwtq on a conservative tune. that is on stock heads,intake, maf, bottom end. and i still get up to 28-29 on the highway. but kinda sucks in town. can't keep my foot out of it.. just love the smell of burning rubber!!!

Sofls1

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I daily drive my car with an ls6 cam. I used this cam for a few reasons; gas mileage, driveability, and I just didn't want to deal with the usual issues associated with a lopey cam in my DD. (plus I got it for $100 )

I'm pretty happy with the results, but I would have definitely gone bigger if I had bought new. (especially with an m6) Plus, you seem to not care about the issues I was concerned with. This is the cam I would use if I were to do it all over again.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...guess-cam.html

7camaro7

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how do you think it'd work with stock 241 heads?

teke184

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the 243 heads will show about 15-20hp over the 241 heads...due to compression and better flow.


as for checking out the Tv1....its not made any more...lol...but the V2 is really close to it.


"I think I'll be sticking with my ls6... FAST90/90 aren't very cost efficient for what I've got now"

i was in the same boat as you...
then i found a great deal on one, and did an apples-2-apples comparison. 18hp/12ftlbs. the car never lost power, all gains from 3000rpm and up.

and it will only make heads THAT much more effective down the road.



queastion...
do you ever plan to do heads? if so, you may want to chose a cam without CRAZY lift like the Tv3...since it can reduce you options on heads (milling, valve size) down the road.

just a thought

7camaro7

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I don't plan to get heads. I just want to do a cam that'll make my car the fastest it can be with stock 3.42s and 241s.

I am really thinking about getting a nasty turbo setup down the road and that is part of my reason to keep the 3.42s. I want to keep from having to uninstall mods down the road or at least keep it minimal.

on the fast, if I find one cheap enough maybe lol

7camaro7

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anymore advise?