Slowhawk

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Looking for input on the reliabilty and people's setup on there stroker motor.Prefer 408 and bigger.

Would like engine specs including,Crank,Rods,Pistons,Cam specs,lifters,Head specs inc valve size.
Would be great if someone has before and after dyno sheets too so we can see the under curve gain
I think this thread could help alot of people looking into stroker kits

Billiumss

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Looks like you and I are going the same route, but I won't get mine done until next winter... (lack of $$$ to do it all at once)

PurEvl

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Looks like the beating my car gave the hawk has broken you down? So sad Now I have to up the ante. My wife thanks you for the next 20k motor I need to build.

Warbird

I have about 19,000 hard miles on my superstroker as of of now. Here are the specs, the motor was built by ARE. 415 CID resleeved aluminum block (dry sleeved process), 4.060" bore X 4.000" stroke, Lunati 4340 forged crank, Lunati H-Beam billet rods, Ross dished forged pistons, Stage II heads 2.02 intake X 1.60 exhaust, stock lifters. T74 single turbo. The last dyno was 585 rwhp and 685 rwtq I can't post the dyno but my car makes (under load) 525 rwtq @ 3000 rpm climbing to peak at 4400 and carries it all the way to the 6200 rpm line.

The motor has not been out of the car and it has probably seen 100+ 1/4 mile passes plus lots of solo track time. I have never been particularly easy on the motor and it has never skipped a beat. This car is a monster to drive and will easilly spin the tires at highway speeds+ I have done a top gear pull and was surprised to find my car will pull hard in 6th as well.

The turbo I had installed has caused numerous problems from it's poor design such as high back pressure issues, running too hot, exhaust leaks and broken plumbing and even that has not managed to hurt the motor itself. I have driven the car with this this motor in 100+ heat and -10+ cold it always starts the first crank and runns smoothly. I think that is a testament to just how tough these motors can be re-sleeved if they are done properly.

I am not going to argue engineering here but ny preference is for the proven (if done correctly) dry re-sleeving process over wet sleeves. My reasons are fairly simply, that there is lots of block material left in the dry sleeve that become an integral part of the strength of the block when finished. I have watched ARE resleeve a block and they are careful to retain material in the bores and weld any pinholes prior to inserting the sleeves. I have also seen ARE re-sleeve a damaged re-sleeved block using this same process and that engine is running just as strong and reliably as before. The wet-sleeve process concerns me, too much material has to be removed and the new sleeves infact become floating sleeves held in place only by the heads, there is no way to prevent movement and I think these sleeves could become a nightmare in a high horsepower application, strapping on a power adder IMHO would be courting disaster. I think over time the dry sleeve will prove to be stronger more reliable and resilant.

Paul

PurEvl

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those numbers seem low for a stroked turbo car?

Warbird

Give that man a cigar . Yes they are down, however the problems I discussed with back pressure have severly limited my my flow and my ability to increase boost. With a properly tuned exhaust and intake to reduce pressure my HP numbers would jump signifigantly and flow would not be disrupted. I also have a wastegate installed that is rated at 500 fwhp max and the exhaust cannot bleed off. We have tuned the motor a number of times and have hit the wall on HP but I can still see bigger and bigger jumps in torque with more timing. Until I can fix the issues I have had the car tuned back to a very safe tune and those numbers are where it sits now.

Over the winter I am removing the kit and redesigning it as a full dual tuned header design that will allow the bigger motor to breathe. My goals are not earth shattering but I am looking for 675 rwhp and 750 rwtq with the new design.

Excellent question and I hope I answered it for you.

My intent by answering the original post was a question regarding the durability of super-strokers.

Paul

PurEvl

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those numbers are more like it I figured there was more to the story. Just making sure

Slowhawk

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Thanks Warbird,That definitly answers how much these motors can take and the longivity.I'm sure your motor has had serious abuse with Turbo's and tuning stress.

Lets here some more.

Slowhawk

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There has got to be more owners out there.

pedaltothemetal

Me too!
I got 20,000 on my 427 c5r blocked motor already.

Leo