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Old 12-29-2003, 05:13 PM
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Ok with all the recent talk of the ls2 block, the biggest news ive heard (from here) is that it will be a 4" bore. But aren't there some other factors involved that need to be right in order for us to use this block? If the 3v heads are an inch wider than ours, how the heck are our ls1/6 heads going to fit that? What about the front of the motor, cover and placement and mounting of all the accessories? What about the oil pan and clearance for the k member?

I almost want to jump to a conclusion that i can just buy one of these bad boys and throw a new eagle 4" into it and have a 400 inch shortblock for not much money. But will it really work? I know its still "early" but what the heck, we might as well start thinking about it.

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probobly wont have to buy a 4" eagle. I would think GM will have a cast version for the z06 to keep up with the vipers 550 hp
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Is it confirmed to be a 3 valve head on the LS2? I was under the impression that it won't be.



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I would think GM will have a cast version for the z06 to keep up with the vipers 550 hp
I highly doubt the 'expectedly lighter' Z06 (or whatever they'll call it) version will have a cast iron block but I'd assume the future truck motors might get a cast version of the LS2 eventually.
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Why make it iron when GM is capable of making it aluminium.
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I think its pretty much a done deal regarding the 3v heads, there were pics of them floating around in another post, looked cool.

I dont see GM putting a 4" crank into a vette, that would be too good to be true. Maybe slightly longer stroke and different cam (or cams...) to get to the 500 mark.

Does GM really "need" to compete with the viper? 50k vs 80k?? The vette is supposed to be fast and still practical, unlike the viper.

Anyways, I think it would be too good to be true if this motor was reverse compatible with what we have now. 4" bore aluminum blocks with some good current 2v ls1/6 heads and a good priced stroker crank would be an awesome setup though.

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Originally Posted by Y2K2LS1
Does GM really "need" to compete with the viper? 50k vs 80k?? The vette is supposed to be fast and still practical, unlike the viper.
I seriously don't think you'll find a '05 Z06 with the LS2 making 500 HP for $50k. They will be pushing $60k+ easy. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see....
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LS2 is supposed to be a 4" bore normal 2v engine. It's the LS7 (apparently) that's gonna be the 6.3L 3 valve engine (500hp?).

LS2 block with an eagle 4" would be an easy 408. I was under the impression it was just an aluminum version of the iron 6L block.

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Originally Posted by Dope
LS2 is supposed to be a 4" bore normal 2v engine. It's the LS7 (apparently) that's gonna be the 6.3L 3 valve engine (500hp?).

LS2 block with an eagle 4" would be an easy 408. I was under the impression it was just an aluminum version of the iron 6L block.

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I was under the impression that the LS7 might be a twin cam in block design 3 or maybe even 4v and the LS2 would be the single cam 3v. But it would be really nice if the LS2 was compatible with our parts. I hope you are right!
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Originally Posted by Y2K2LS1
Ok with all the recent talk of the ls2 block, the biggest news ive heard (from here) is that it will be a 4" bore. But aren't there some other factors involved that need to be right in order for us to use this block? If the 3v heads are an inch wider than ours, how the heck are our ls1/6 heads going to fit that? What about the front of the motor, cover and placement and mounting of all the accessories? What about the oil pan and clearance for the k member?

I almost want to jump to a conclusion that i can just buy one of these bad boys and throw a new eagle 4" into it and have a 400 inch shortblock for not much money. But will it really work? I know its still "early" but what the heck, we might as well start thinking about it.

The only physical differences between the ls1 & ls2 I have heard so far are the knock sensors are not mounted under the intake manifold and the crank position sensor is mounted on the front of the crank and not the rear.
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was talking about the crank being 4"cast like the stockers we have now. Hell with iron blocks.
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Originally Posted by SSInnovations
I work for GM R&D and what I keep hearing is that the LS2 is for sure an aluminum 6.0 block, much like the LS1 but with slight revisions that make LS1 internals incompatible. The bore is 4.00” but I believe the stroke is the same as the LS1’s. From what I gather they did not go with overhead cams and stuck with the 32 valve set-up. As far as the ZO6 goes, we have to wait until 2006 because they are not releasing it until then. There was some serious talk a while back that the new Z’s will have a 427, or at least a limited number of them will. Regardless, the new coupes will be starting around 55,000 and the convertibles close to sixty, that’s puts the Z’s at least in the mid sixty’s. Most of this is still rumors and people directly involved on the project are being pretty tight lipped. I would definitely put money on a 427 in the future though, and f@#$ Vipers, they handle like **** and you could never reliable put over 100,000 miles on one. I can’t wait until these thing start getting wrecked and we are able to pick up some bone stock motors with serious *****.
why do i get the sense you dont work for GM

32v , i thought the ls2 was 16 vavle and the ls7 24v. since when did the 4v vavle come out (besides the lt5)
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Recent magazine review I saw said the vette had a 2v head. The only 3v talk I've seen has been on this board.




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