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Old 01-21-2004, 11:18 PM
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I have the 224/224 566/566 114lsa cam with tunneing and am getting alot of surging
I was wondering if you guys have any of this? and if it's normal? if not what did you do about it. It was tuned by Chris Robinson and he said everything is dead on.
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Well, I have a 222/222 cam with the same lift you do and I can tell you that I still get some low speed surge. It's the nature of the beast with duration and aftermarket sticks. Tuning can minimize the level of surge, but it can't eliminate it. You'll find yourself clutching a lot more to keep your ride smooth!
Old 01-22-2004, 05:27 AM
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With the right tune the car will feel and sound stock with that Cam..Sounds like it just needs more idle tuning.
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I have no surging or idling problems at all. My idle is set at 875 and I have no rolling idle at all or low speed surging.
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Are you talking surging during cruise or just when coming to a stop when you first push the clutch in??

Mine surges a tad when I first push the clutch in coming to a stop. I've cured most of it by increasing the idle air values.
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Have you contacted Robinson on this? He tuned my car and when I went back to the track after wards I could see it still needed a little tweaking so I mailed him my PCM and he made adjustments so I wouldnt have to drive back up there.
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Yeah, let us know at what point your car is surging at. Mine surges a tiny bit when I have to cruise through parking lots if I let the rpms fall too low. But I think you experience that with all if not most cam packages. Other than that she starts, idles and drives just like stock! Except faster!
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mine searches for idle when i first start it but doesnt surge when driving
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Originally Posted by 1fastWS6
Are you talking surging during cruise or just when coming to a stop when you first push the clutch in??

Mine surges a tad when I first push the clutch in coming to a stop. I've cured most of it by increasing the idle air values.
My surging is at idle everything else is ok.
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Yall need better tuning.

My 228 on a 111LSA starts fine runs good.

buck/surges a little when cold and rolling through a parking lot or something.
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Originally Posted by PlainwhiteZ28
Yall need better tuning.

My 228 on a 111LSA starts fine runs good.

buck/surges a little when cold and rolling through a parking lot or something.
Mine searches for idle for a few, I get a small amount of surging when going slow, this is untuned, will be getting tuned soon.
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Originally Posted by CamaroCain
Have you contacted Robinson on this? He tuned my car and when I went back to the track after wards I could see it still needed a little tweaking so I mailed him my PCM and he made adjustments so I wouldnt have to drive back up there.
Yes, he told me somethings to try but Im still haveing problem so I will give him call today. I wanted to check with you guys to see if it was normal.
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Is it always hunting for idle? Or only when you start it up the first time?
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Mine surges a little at Low speeds like under 10mph, I just clutch it then coast to a stop instead of using the clutch to slow it down.
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Jim at Speed Inc tuned my 224/224 .581 on a 112 and it ran like stock, 403.5rwhp on stock heads through a 12 bolt. You should see what he does with a G5X2! It's all in the tuning.
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Originally Posted by Tracer X
Is it always hunting for idle? Or only when you start it up the first time?

It's always hunting for idle.
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thats a problem

my tuning isnt that great at all and mine only hunts for a little bit when i first start it
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mine surges every once in a while. I have an A4 though so i just need better tuning.
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I have basically the same Cam as you,mine sometimes surges at Idle.It is a tunning problem at least with mine,The cam is pretty mild,not that radical
Old 01-23-2004, 11:35 AM
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it is a tuning issue I haven't tuned my car yet but I did drill the thorttle body hole and have no problems or surging.




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