What cams are working the best with stock heads nowadays that aren't race-only?
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What cams are working the best with stock heads nowadays that aren't race-only?
Getting ready to do a cam swap, and I've pretty much got all my parts except for the cam! Anyways, I want something that's gonna make power all over the place, and that I won't have to rev to 68-7000 rpm's to get it. I wouldn't mind one bit running a 110 LSA cam, as I can tune for it, so that wouldn't be a problem, and besides, that idle would be frickin wicked!
So, what do you guys think? Which cams are the making the best power on stck heads right now? Are they single patterns, reverse splits, or traditional splits?
So, what do you guys think? Which cams are the making the best power on stck heads right now? Are they single patterns, reverse splits, or traditional splits?
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Reverse splits seem to be doing it. Check into cams like the F1 from speedtek, X1 from MTI, and some of the reverse split thunder racing cams like the 227. All of these along with bolt ons like intake, exhaust, tb, headers, etc. will put you right around 400rwhp.
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From looking at your mod list, first thing you need is headers. Get some LT's first. I didn't see an LS-6 intake on your list either, get that before the cam as well.
If you are sticking with your stock heads stay under a 224/224 cam. If you go bigger, your just wasting your time. Stock heads won't flow enough to support much more cam than that.
If you are sticking with your stock heads stay under a 224/224 cam. If you go bigger, your just wasting your time. Stock heads won't flow enough to support much more cam than that.
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I agree with the first point mentioned above, but disagree with the second. There are numerous reverse split cams out there that are making at least 10rwhp more than a 224/224 cam on stock heads with similar bolt ons.
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That mod list is old. I already have LT's and an LS6 intake.
What are the specs of the F1 cam? I already know the specs of the rest.
Also, this will have to be a cam that will have plenty of clearance, and will require no flycutting.
What are the specs of the F1 cam? I already know the specs of the rest.
Also, this will have to be a cam that will have plenty of clearance, and will require no flycutting.
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Originally Posted by 98SS Blackattack
You could go way bigger than a 224 on stock heads.Where did you hear such a thing? LS1.com?
Ha ha .... that is what I was told when I was looking for a cam about a year ago .... now look at all the big cams and big numbers through stock heads I am thinking about the TR230 or bigger for myself here soon
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It pays to do a little research for yourself. I spent a month or so looking for a cam before I bought one. You need one that will be right for you. I would never just take someones word that a cam is good. You have to figure out what you want to do and then pick a cam that will accomplish those goals.
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the tr230 is what i've got and i couldn't be happier with it. it has GREAT midrange and still makes almost 400rwhp. with a ported tb i would've been over that mark, but oh well. i've got new plans in the works now
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I've done my research, and pretty much know what I want, but I also wanted to see what everyone else was running, and how they liked it. Do don't think I'm coming in here just asking a blind question without any knowledge of knowing what I'm looking for.
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You can hit 400 HP with a TR224 on stock heads. No matter what cam you put in with stock heads your not going to make much more than 400 HP. Certainly, you can shove a bigger cam in the car, but all you'll get a something that idles bad and is dog off the line.
If you're a drag race only car or a dyno queen, the only limit is your tolerance for a lumpy idle and bad street manners. I prefer to have a well rounded street car, which would include a cam that matches the heads, gears and exhaust.
With the comments posted above you should look at something in the 230+ range, certainly a reverse split if you have 1 7/8" headers and I'd use a 108-109 LSA to keep your stock (I'll assume) bottom end safe and R's low.
However, you still won't see much over 400 HP w/o upgrading your heads.
If you're a drag race only car or a dyno queen, the only limit is your tolerance for a lumpy idle and bad street manners. I prefer to have a well rounded street car, which would include a cam that matches the heads, gears and exhaust.
With the comments posted above you should look at something in the 230+ range, certainly a reverse split if you have 1 7/8" headers and I'd use a 108-109 LSA to keep your stock (I'll assume) bottom end safe and R's low.
However, you still won't see much over 400 HP w/o upgrading your heads.
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Like I said before, I'm not looking for a race-only cam. A rough idle is fine, as I can dyno-tune at will at TEA, so that's no big deal. I'm just looking for something reliable, and will make 380+ rwhp. The car will keep the 3.42 gears, so that's why I was looking for something a lil less peaky. Hell, as good a numbers as the Hotcam has been putting up lately, it's putting alot of the high dollar, high lift and duration cams to shame!! lol
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Originally Posted by equandt
You can hit 400 HP with a TR224 on stock heads. No matter what cam you put in with stock heads your not going to make much more than 400 HP. Certainly, you can shove a bigger cam in the car, but all you'll get a something that idles bad and is dog off the line.
If you're a drag race only car or a dyno queen, the only limit is your tolerance for a lumpy idle and bad street manners. I prefer to have a well rounded street car, which would include a cam that matches the heads, gears and exhaust.
With the comments posted above you should look at something in the 230+ range, certainly a reverse split if you have 1 7/8" headers and I'd use a 108-109 LSA to keep your stock (I'll assume) bottom end safe and R's low.
However, you still won't see much over 400 HP w/o upgrading your heads.
If you're a drag race only car or a dyno queen, the only limit is your tolerance for a lumpy idle and bad street manners. I prefer to have a well rounded street car, which would include a cam that matches the heads, gears and exhaust.
With the comments posted above you should look at something in the 230+ range, certainly a reverse split if you have 1 7/8" headers and I'd use a 108-109 LSA to keep your stock (I'll assume) bottom end safe and R's low.
However, you still won't see much over 400 HP w/o upgrading your heads.
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Originally Posted by UnbelievabLS1
Like I said before, I'm not looking for a race-only cam. A rough idle is fine, as I can dyno-tune at will at TEA, so that's no big deal. I'm just looking for something reliable, and will make 380+ rwhp. The car will keep the 3.42 gears, so that's why I was looking for something a lil less peaky. Hell, as good a numbers as the Hotcam has been putting up lately, it's putting alot of the high dollar, high lift and duration cams to shame!! lol
A 112lsa will get you the sound you want. I would go with a TR224 112lsa
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Originally Posted by UnbelievabLS1
I'm just looking for something reliable, and will make 380+ rwhp. The car will keep the 3.42 gears, so that's why I was looking for something a lil less peaky.
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Notice I said 380+. I'm looking to with a 110 LSA actually. And the cams ya'll listed like the B1, T1, TR220, Hotcam, etc, are too small, and are too old. The lobes aren't very agressive, and the ramp rates are slow. I was just teasing earlier about the Hotcam! lol I'm really liking the X1 and TR230, but we've been tossing a few other ideas around at the shop. Brent wants me to go with a traditional split, but I'm really leaning towards a reverse, as I've seen nothing but good things come from them.
Like I've said before, tuning won't be a problem, as me and Brent will be doing that at the shop.
Like I've said before, tuning won't be a problem, as me and Brent will be doing that at the shop.
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Well look at the colonel cam, I know it's a 422 but the Stealth II from MTI is a nice choice. 224/220 .581 @ 116 LSA. The clip's I've heard sound like a stocker. If I do it again I'll try this cam. With a 116 LSA the power band is not as narrow and it will rev to the sky.
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That would be fine if I wanted something with a stealthy idle, but I don't really care to try and cover it up. If you'll notice, whatever cam I choose, will either be on a 110 or 111 LSA, so the choppiness won't bother me.