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Old 02-15-2011, 03:16 AM
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Going to mod the LS1 short block. Want to make as much power on a street car that i can. AFR 225 heads, Custom comp cam, FAST 102/102, 36 lb/hr injectors, Kooks lt headers and catted x pipe. B&B cat back, Monster stage 3, Tick built t-56.

What kind of Power am i going to make? hoping for mid to high 400's

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Looks like a good combo. Although that cam strikes me as a touch smallish for a 408, but hey, what do I know. I'm sure the experts will chime in and give you some good feedback.
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If it was me I would sell the LS6 intake and get a FAST 102 and 90mm TB. I would also look at a Mellings HV oil pump. Also what is your exhaust setup looking like. I would look at 1 7/8 LT if you do not already have them. This is only my recommandation and only if it fits into your budget.

It sounds like you will have a excellent street setup their. I agree that cam is not on the wild side for a 408 but should be a nice daily driver. Good luck in the build and keep us posted.
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Yes sir, looks good. I bought my 402 from them originally and when I went back into it and freshened it up I got all the parts from them. I deal with Jon Reynolds, regardless who TSP is the way to go ! ! ! Good luck on the build man.
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Originally Posted by WS6RED2002TA
If it was me I would sell the LS6 intake and get a FAST 102 and 90mm TB. I would also look at a Mellings HV oil pump. Also what is your exhaust setup looking like. I would look at 1 7/8 LT if you do not already have them. This is only my recommandation and only if it fits into your budget.

It sounds like you will have a excellent street setup their. I agree that cam is not on the wild side for a 408 but should be a nice daily driver. Good luck in the build and keep us posted.

^^^^Pretty much agree with this and think your present intake system will cost you some power. If you do the FAST I would do a FTP 104mm lid and 100mm MAF if you are not going SD.

I would really consider more cam too. A high 230's cam or even a low 240's cam can be VERY streetable on a 408....
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Nice combo but I would also upgrade the intake and go a little bigger with the cam since you have more cubes.
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Go bigger on the cam, buy CENTERBOLT valve cover gaskets not perimeter bolt, and buy FIC rejetted and flowmatched injectors not the FAST (cheaper) .
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Looks like a good combo. I wouldn't worry about the intake if the FAST is out of your budget. The car will still make good useable power with the LS6 and will give you something to add down the road. Give me a call when you're ready and I'd be happy to discuss your plans and help answer any questions you have about your build. We should have just about everything here on the shelf!

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Thinking Maybe the magic stick 3 cam now with all your guys input. Cant wait to post pics of the build and then dyno numbers and 1/4 times
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definitely a bigger cam. A Buddy daily drove his 233/239 114 lsa cammed 346 like it was nothing til he got goat fever. Hop up into the 240s at least with that 408
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Originally Posted by earmuffs
Anyone want to guess at the hp numbers that will come out of it.
Headers? Auto or M6?
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no headers, yet. Big yet. will eventually have A&A headers no cats. B&B cat back.
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If you don't have headers, I would put them on at the same time. Save a little more cash and get a set of Pacesetters to put on with your new parts. You will get rid of a BIG restriction in doing so. If not, you the bigger cubes won't make the power you are hoping for. I would hate to see you spend all this money and not be happy with the performance.

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FYI, TSP can also do custon grinds w/CompCam LSL lobes, even though there not listed.

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i know that not having headers will hold it back. But when i have the dough im going to get long tubes, and a cat back system to really open it up.
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Originally Posted by earmuffs
Finally made the decision of the new 408, or mod the ls1.

Have lq4 block, machine .025 over just need to finish hone it to fit the pistons.
LS6 Intake off of 01 LS1
all the engine covers and accessories off LS1

this is where Tesxas Speed comes in.

Precison Race Components Stg 2.5 LS6 Heads & Cam
Item# 25-PKG6 $1,979.99


Valve Springs | Upgrade to PRC Dual Spring Kit with Tit. Retainers $0.00

Texas Speed 233/239 Camshaft $0.00

Select Lobe Separation Angle (LSA): | 114 LSA $0.00

Timing Chain: | None $0.00

Pushrod Length: | 7.400" Length (Standard) $0.00

Oil Pump: | None $0.00

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$1,979.99

F.A.S.T. 36 lb. Fuel Injectors, Emissions-Legal
Item# 111-303608 $329.99

Texas Speed & Performance 408 cid Rotating Assy.
Item# 25-TSP408Assy. $1,695.00


Select Crankshaft: | Callies LSc 5140 Steel Crank $0.00

Select Connecting Rods: | Callies CompStar Connecting Rods $110.00

Select Pistons: | Wiseco 4.030" -3cc Flat-Top (K464X3) $0.00

Select Piston Ring Set: | Wiseco Steel Top/Napier 2nd (Wiseco Pistons Only!) $0.00

Add Main & Rod Bearings: | Clevite "H" Chamfered $179.99

Balance Rotating Assy.: | Balance Rotating Assy. $225.00

Select Reluctor Wheel: | 24X Tooth Reluctor Wheel $0.00

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$2,209.99

GM Replacement LS7 Lifters
Item# 28-12499225 $139.99

Deluxe Heads & Camshaft Bolt & Gasket Kit
Item# 25-HCDELUXE $315.99


Select Head Bolts: | GM Short & Long Bolts, 1997-2003 Blocks $0.00

Select Head Gaskets: | GM MLS Gasket Set, 6.0L, 4.04" Bore $35.00

Select Balancer Pulley Bolt: | GM Balancer Pulley Bolt $0.00

Select Valve Cover Gaskets: | Perimeter Bolt Valve Covers $0.00

Select Valley Cover Gasket: | LS1-Style Gasket $0.00

Optional EGR Gasket Delete: | Include EGR Gaskets $0.00

Intake Manifold Gasket Set: | GM LS1, LS2, LS6 $0.00

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$350.99

Subtotal: $5,010.95

That should give me a complete motor. In advance thanks Texas Speed.

Anyone want to guess at the hp numbers that will come out of it. And if there is anything i forgot please enlighten me.
Advanced Induction for the win.
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
FYI, TSP can also do custon grinds w/CompCam LSL lobes, even though there not listed.
i would definitely do a custom grind to make sure i get exactly what i want HP wise after dropping this much coin
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This assembly is just the start. Eventually will get a FAST 102/102 tony mamo poted, along with kooks long tubes abd b&b cat backs. But for now this will do. Will look into the custom cam grind. Jon, maybe you can chime in there
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No one want to delve into the numbers game?
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Originally Posted by earmuffs
No one want to delve into the numbers game?
You want numbers on an "eventual" combo or your "proposed" one? Not bustin your *****, just think you've got some critical pieces missing....


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