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Old 08-26-2011, 08:28 AM   #1
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Default MS4 or Torquer v2

I still confused what cam MS4 112 LSA or Torquer V2 with rocker arm
Cause now with the current CheaTR v.3 cam its noticeable that the RPM is too heavy on 1,2 gear my friends told me to change the cam or get 3.91ís what do u think .

also the car will be for DD the car already made 426hp/392ft

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Forget the 3.91 gear until you try shorter tires. Same result, much less work.
And such a small change isn't going to make any real difference anyway.
If you are going to change gears, at least go 4.10
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What are your goals for the cam swap? Are you ok with a peaky powerband with a significant loss in bottom end power as compared to what you have now? Or do you want to keep a bit better bottom end at the expense of a little of that top-end power?
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What are your goals for the cam swap? Are you ok with a peaky powerband with a significant loss in bottom end power as compared to what you have now? Or do you want to keep a bit better bottom end at the expense of a little of that top-end power?
As I said the RPM is too heavy on 1,2 even the 3rd gear actually I am really confused I donít know but for sure I am NOT GIOING TO STROK the car if that what you means .
Cause I believe I can get more torque and HP for the current set up if I change he cam.
My friends told me with heads and Mainfold like these I have to change the cam to get the bust results

Keeping in mind the DD ability
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and if i get the MS4 112 lsa would it be fine for DD and what numbers do you expect
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you might have to fly cut your pistons with the ms4 if your heads are milled
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Why not just have a custom cam ground for you that works best with the mods you have on the car?
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i am not sure about custom cams.
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you might have to fly cut your pistons with the ms4 if your heads are milled
no they aren't
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well just make sure u check for clearance cus thats gonna be pretty close or just ask someone from texas speed on here if your okay
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i am not sure about custom cams.

Contact PatG, he has a form you fill out and he will look at what you have as well as what you are looking to do with the car. Majority here seem to like the cams he recommends to have made for their cars. I am waiting on my cam to be made right now, should be here soon.

It's better to get something thats good for your specific set up versus an off the shelf cam. It's like buying a tailored shirt versus buying a generic shirt.
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and if i get the ms4 112 lsa would it be fine for dd
why?!
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what tranny are you using?if a stalled A4 get the torquer ,I feel it is a better DD cam.it is always better to under cam.a custom cam from Patrick-G is worth it and you won't regret it.read about his cam threads and see he has great cam insight.
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With your setup the MS4 would be a nice choice with very good top end rpm power. However, as others have mentioned a custom can matched to your setup would be best. I would highly recommend Texas Speed.
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It seems you all agreed the custom cam . it is good in on way and not in other.
It is good that I will get the best result as the custom cam will match my modes .
but I don’t want to be Stuck with one choices for cam . Therefore I put the MS4 & the T2 even maybe the T3 .
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what tranny are you using?if a stalled A4 get the torquer ,I feel it is a better DD cam.it is always better to under cam.a custom cam from Patrick-G is worth it and you won't regret it.read about his cam threads and see he has great cam insight.
. 4L60E not stalled
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then you need a stall before anything
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Not stalled?? There's the issue right there. Get a custom ground cam and a converter. You'll never look back...
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Not stalled?? There's the issue right there. Get a custom ground cam and a converter. You'll never look back...
What the use of the stall as we rolling from 40 we never drag from 0. I think I will change the cam and get 3.91s
Correct me if I’m wrong
Talking about cams . I see nobody recommended the MS4 is it so bad for my setup and for DD
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