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Old 10-07-2011, 07:34 PM
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I'm buying a brand new EPS 226 230 .598 .600 113+2 and I'm not too sure if I would need double springs or just good some beehives. Can some one tell me what would be best for this set up? The car will be drifted and held at high RPM's if that matters...

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Old 10-07-2011, 08:10 PM
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EPS cams are supposed to be beehive friendly. I'm running that cam with PAC 1518s and 6500 is no problem. If you plan on higher rpm you might want to check with Geoff.
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I'm running patriot gold duals, just to be on the safe side.
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Originally Posted by Camaro Z
I'm running patriot gold duals, just to be on the safe side.
That is a myth
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What about the PSI beehives that are sold from Advanced Induction? That is what they are recommending to me when I get their valve job and cam done. Although I do not know what cam they are going to design for me yet. According to AI, they are the best beehive in the market.

Looking at the spring options on AI's site, they call them the 1511 spring and they provided a link to the PSI spec sheet, which after looking at it I'm assuming PSI's part number is LS11511ML.

Here's the spring spec sheet from PSI's site.

http://www.psisprings.com/index.php?...ask=view&id=17

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I'm running PAC 1518's with the same cam.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
That is a myth
So do u mean that the beehive springs are good enough ?
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my eps cam has around the same lift and geoff told me comp 918's were o.k. to run.i have no problem so far.
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The EPS lobes are designed to work with beehives and most will agree that
the PSI Maxlife are about as good as it gets. There have been threads about
assorted brands of beehives breaking which for a number of reasons is never
good....soooo the belief is that having duals gives you piece of mind insurance
that both springs should never break or drop the valve. I believe it's more of a
maintenance factor where generally B-hives last 15-20 thousand miles and
duals (set up properly) seem to go 25-35 before needing replacement.
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
The EPS lobes are designed to work with beehives and most will agree that
the PSI Maxlife are about as good as it gets. There have been threads about
assorted brands of beehives breaking which for a number of reasons is never
good....soooo the belief is that having duals gives you piece of mind insurance
that both springs should never break or drop the valve. I believe it's more of a
maintenance factor where generally B-hives last 15-20 thousand miles and
duals (set up properly) seem to go 25-35 before needing replacement.
Whats needed to "set up duals properly"?
And you have to admit having that extra spring is always a nice reassurance when you hit thee rev limiter accidentally...
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I went with Comp 921's. Overkill I know.
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Originally Posted by Fb0dy0nly
Whats needed to "set up duals properly"?
And you have to admit having that extra spring is always a nice reassurance when you hit thee rev limiter accidentally...
duals can experience surge if not shimmed to within .060" of coil bind
beehives by design ward this off with the conical shape and ovate wire
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Im running Pac 1518s on an EPS 226/234, .598/.601. I only turn it up to 6200 but thats more for the rod bearings than the valve springs.
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I'm running that same cam with the Pac 1518's. You will be more then fine with those.
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Predator Z

Could you elaborate more on the "myth" please?.....
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Geoff also said the PAC 1518s would be fine to me with the 226/230. I only rev to 6400 anyways though.
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Originally Posted by OutlawDrifter
Predator Z

Could you elaborate more on the "myth" please?.....
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I always assumed that you are less likely to drop a valve having the duals, one as a back up.
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A single beehive spring is the correct set of springs for this application. I have run 918s on everything, even my cam up .620+ lift.

Lets clear up some info.....

1.All spring will experience surging, and im not talking about valve float.
2.All springs run better when properly shimmed to around .060" (with dual you must check inners and outters)
3.Weight matters, even in the valve spring. Beehives are lighter and better in this application to maintain valvetrain stability
4.Dual springs often result in a loss of lift, typically .020-.030" between a beehive and a dual. Ive seen as much as .070"
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
4.Dual springs often result in a loss of lift, typically .020-.030" between a beehive and a dual. Ive seen as much as .070"
How? (This is a question - not a challenge.)


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