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Old 10-23-2011, 01:14 PM
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I'm about to swap in a 5.3 into a Blazer xtreme. My question is can I use dual valvesprings with a stock ls1 cam. I want to do this because I will be installing a turbo about a month later after. I want to make sure there are no problems running naturally aspirated before I install the turbo. Would this be ok or would that be too much spring pressure. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by hitemup9nine
I'm about to swap in a 5.3 into a Blazer xtreme. My question is can I use dual valvesprings with a stock ls1 cam. I want to do this because I will be installing a turbo about a month later after. I want to make sure there are no problems running naturally aspirated before I install the turbo. Would this be ok or would that be too much spring pressure. Thanks.
Seems like it would be overkill (too much spring pressure) for a stock LS1 cam. The spring selection is dependent on the cam profile and lift - having a turbo or not shouldn't really matter.

PAC 1218 or 1518 beehive springs (or similar in other brands) would be way more than you'd need with a stock LS1 cam.
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Any other opinions.
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for that cam you could go with stock Yellow spring from the Z06.
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So if I go with a turbo later I would not need to change springs again? I was under the impression I would have to use dual valvesprings when going turbo.
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it would really depend on how much boost, the dual valvesprings should def give you piece of mind and longevity. You can get new ls6 springs for super cheap and they would be able to handle considerable amount of boost now that im thinking about it, I would throw a ls6 cam in the motor. i think i saw one in the classifieds this morning mad cheap and a GREAT turbo cam.
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Originally Posted by hitemup9nine
So if I go with a turbo later I would not need to change springs again? I was under the impression I would have to use dual valvesprings when going turbo.
Don't know why you would. All the springs are doing is making sure the valve train follows the cam profile without floating off the cam lobe. Having a turbo will not change the way the lifters/pushrod/rocker arms behave with a certain valve spring & cam.
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Don't know why you would. All the springs are doing is making sure the valve train follows the cam profile without floating off the cam lobe. Having a turbo will not change the way the lifters/pushrod/rocker arms behave with a certain valve spring & cam.
it does, the boost makes it harder on the spring
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Don't know why you would. All the springs are doing is making sure the valve train follows the cam profile without floating off the cam lobe. Having a turbo will not change the way the lifters/pushrod/rocker arms behave with a certain valve spring & cam.
FYI...boost continuously pushes at the back of the intake valves when they
are closed. The number of square inches of cross sectional area (minus the
valvestem diameter) times the amount of boost (psi) determines how much
force is working against the valvespring even though the cam isn't. If the OP
does go w/the Z06 cam...which is a good choice, the yellow GM springs
should not be used as they are intended for NA and the lightweight valves.
I'd strongly consider the PSI maxlife beehive !!!!! Works with the factory
retainers and seals, has great pressures to work with a larger cam, heavier
standard valves, AND boost.
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Ill be running mainly 10lbs but might go to 15lbs everyonce in a while. I will use a ls6 cam now that I think of it. I currently have Prc dual valve-springs but I haven't put them in. So it would be ok to run the dual springs for a coupe prolly 500 miles at most until I go turbo. Good info guys. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
FYI...boost continuously pushes at the back of the intake valves when they are closed. The number of square inches of cross sectional area (minus the valvestem diameter) times the amount of boost (psi) determines how much force is working against the valvespring even though the cam isn't.
So what are we talking ... maybe an extra 20 lbs of spring force required to hold back 15 psi of boost? Changing to any aftermarket beehive is going to give way more than an extra 20 lbs of spring force.
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
So what are we talking ... maybe an extra 20 lbs of spring force required to hold back 15 psi of boost? Changing to any aftermarket beehive is going to give way more than an extra 20 lbs of spring force.
Agreed !! I was merely stating to not use the yellow spring as you need
about 20-30 more on the seat than the cam requires NA. The OPs duals
are overkill but he should have approx. 130 seat min.




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