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Old 03-28-2012, 02:25 PM
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01 ws6 with stock heads and
.high flow air lid
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.Borla cat back
.monster stage 2 clutch kit
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.tsp cam kit with duel springs and hardened push rods 233/239 .595/.603 112 lsa
.stock 10 bolt with 4.10 gears
Hope this will work for a street car that might go on three hour road trips once a twice a year. This is my first build so thought you guys with experience could tell me if this will workout well.
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With a good street/dyno tune that will be perfect IMO.
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As long as you get a good tune I don't see any problem with that setup. I daily drove my last Camaro with a very similar cam in an ls2 motor.
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Thanks for the quick replies. I plan to have it installed and tuned by speedtek in Ft Worth the first part of May. I've tried to read as many threads as possible to make sure this will work.( without stuff breaking and be drivable but powerful lol)
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Also looking at poly motor mounts but according to some threads I can't do poly tranny mounts also...so just replace tranny mount with new stock one???
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I would not go any larger on the cam for a street car, that is certainly on the bigish end. With the M6 and the 4.10 you will be ok, but thats pretty much the limit IMO. If it were me I would probably drop back one size to somthing like Thunderstruck507 is using for a stick, but thats just my personal preference, I like tire frying without needing to downshift so much.

I noticed that you are runnign a catted Y? Do you have emissions testing where you are at? That cam may be a problem on emissions testing. It has 12 degrees of overlap, if they test your tailpipe that could be bad.
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No tail pipe test where I live in Texas but they do a visual. I'm up for cam suggestions cuz I can wait a few days before I'm gonna order list above.
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if your set on ordering from texas speed i would consider doing the torquer V2 and maybe torquer v3 cam for more of a streetable cam. the torquer v3 is even a bit to big for what i would consider a streetable dd cam. Either way all these cams will produce good power and be fun to drive.
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If you don't already have the cam then I would see about a 230/234 (this grind is getting fairly common lately with great results) or 230/236 from your choice of vendor. I like EPS and got my cam within a few days but some people wait weeks for them. Texas Speed will let you enter your own specs on their site for a custom cam or you can call them too.

With stock heads a cam like mine might even be right up your alley, Geoff said he made the split large because his recent testings have found it can help get the exhaust out on stock or mild heads with some intake work. Side benefit is it should like nitrous if you ever decide that's a good idea.

Your manual trans and 4.10s will let you get away with pretty healthy cam. Only reason I didn't say your first choice looks a little large. If you don't already have it, something a tad smaller might be more enjoyable for a street car.

You can always have Pat G spec you out something specific for your car and mod list.
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I will definitely make sure to talk to tsp about your suggestions.....I have only talked to them once and told them I wanted 400+rwhp and good streetability without having to worry about changing springs all the time and stuff breaking and he suggested most of what is listed above...should I go poly motor mounts or just stock replacements, what I've heard is poly gives car alot of vibration feel
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OP,
Just for a comparable, My car has an MS3 with Hooker LT's and a good tune. It has a 9" with 3.90 gears and an M6. I've been driving it daily when it's nice out breaking in a new clutch sometimes up to 50miles. It's a little cold blooded here up in the northwoods until temp is up to about 160. You shouldn't drive it hard until then anyway, as oil takes twice as long to heat up as the water temp..and those springs appreciate a bit of heat in them and warm oil.
I think you'll be fine with your combo. Mods are a tradeoff...what you give up between 2k-4krpm, you'll get back on the top end. Just take good care of your spring setup. FWIW, Texas Speed told me daily driving and going to the track twice a month in the summer, those springs should last around 20k miles.
Oh, the car put down 401rwhp on a Mustang Dyno, have fun!
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i run the 233/239 cam everyday in my car and it drives fine with a good tune but the tune is the key to any car driving good on the street
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I daily drove a 238/240 112+2LSA HPE S cam until my ten bolt with 4.10s broke. Now I daily drive it with 4.11s and a detroit locker in a nine inch. All in the tune youll be fine!.

FWIW I had a 224/230 "street cam" and I got tired of it giving up on me past 5800 rpm. It felt like I was rolling out of the throttle past that. My best friend had a 233/239 with 3.42s that he daily drove for a while before getting the GTO urge. It definitely needs the gear though. Hope you enjoy!
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Thanks for the info...anyone know the power band difference between 233/239 and 230/236 or is there much at all?
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the 230/236 would have maybe 100-200 rpm lower power band
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Originally Posted by dodson55
i run the 233/239 cam everyday in my car and it drives fine with a good tune but the tune is the key to any car driving good on the street
What rpm do you shift at?
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Is it a good street setup -- absolutely. You cam selection is in a good range (could even go a little smaller and enjoy the usable power under the curve) and should give you room to grow in the event you decide to upgrade the heads later on down the road.

Cam choice matched well to rear end gear selection -- good job. Should be fun!
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Thanks, I hope so.... most everyone adds that part about going a bit smaller but I keep reading alot of threads where people wish they went a bit bigger so that's why I'm trying to find that sweet spot...if that makes any sense lol
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Thanks, I hope so.... most everyone adds that part about going a bit smaller but I keep reading alot of threads where people wish they went a bit bigger so that's why I'm trying to find that sweet spot...if that makes any sense lol
i can understand where you coming from. You have to understand at the sametime a streetable cam to one person might not be considered a streetable cam to another. when you think of a streetable dd cam your not going over the 230 duration or .600 lift in most cases. this well keep the lower end to mid range right where you want it for a dd. Anything thing above that you are stepping out of a dd cam. Your going to have to bring the rpms up a lot higher to get into the powerband and your killing gas milage by a lot. These guys that are dd these big cams arent telling you how much gas they are sucking down to feed these big cams either. The more lift equals more air which you need to compensate with fuel. If gas isnt a problem with you go ahead slap that cam in there and have fun with a nasty lumpy idle! most of those big cam like to be spun up to 7000 rpms which most stock drivetrain parts dont like. Im not trying to be a jerk or anything. i'm just trying to help you see the overall view of bothsides.

I really do like the specs on the torquer V2. its a great all around cam. Texas speed has been recommending the tourqer V3 more the the V2 these days. The say it still has great torquer and it does well up top.
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Can any one tell me with this setup do I need poly motor mounts and stock tranny mount or go stock on both or poly on both??? And will the 10 bolt make it till next year with 2500 rpm launches here and there with shitty nitto summer maxs (315's) on the street?
And thanks to all that have helped this rookie!!!


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