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I think I'm goin overboard w/ my cam on my 347 but what the hell. G5X-3 is too small!

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Old 04-07-2004, 08:12 PM
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Default I think I'm goin overboard w/ my cam on my 347 but what the hell. G5X-3 is too small!

Well, looks like I may be going with a 240/248 .610/.625 112LSA or something like that in the new 347. Probably won't make too much more power than a G5X-3, but who knows.....we can only wait and see. I feel left out in the "who can fit the biggest cam" competition.

Gotta love it with the daily driver

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Hate to say it chief but thats probably the #1 absolute DUMBEST reason to run such a camshaft. But it's your world bro, good luck


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Originally Posted by Damian
Hate to say it chief but thats probably the #1 absolute DUMBEST reason to run such a camshaft. But it's your world bro, good luck


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Oh come on now, you guys know better than that

I'm running it to get max power out of the car, period. If I was really concerned about daily driveability, I wouldn't have purchased my rattle trap to begin with, and I wouldn't have modded the **** out of it.
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go for it man... get it as big as possible and run the highest compression you can, and this will equal unparalleled performance make it happen

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Another pioneer....Verbs, you can laugh at them when they start following you in their setups.
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I would drop to a 110 LSA though.
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
I would drop to a 110 LSA though.
I would but I'm going bottle....and lots of it. Idle would suck even more if that's possible. This cam should peak around 6500 give or take 100rpms. I plan on spinning her to about 7200rpms or so anyway.
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Originally Posted by dazman
go for it man... get it as big as possible and run the highest compression you can, and this will equal unparalleled performance make it happen

mike
I remember when I was going big w/ a TR 230 almost 2 years ago


Well for the daily driver it'll be only 11.1-11.2 compression. I'd run more but I only have 91 octane w/ lots of heat to deal with (although the EWP should help). This cam should bleed off a ton of compression to make this even possible.
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Well generally it seems the bigger the cam the more power you will make. I say go for it,
one question though isn't 11.1 or 11.2 a little to high of compression for 91 octane? I know you are gonna bleed of some compression with the cam but definatly do your homework on this one. It would suck to ruin that nice new block
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110 LSA works fine on the bottle. I've seen ASA cammed cars (110 LSA) make 700 ft lbs of TQ on a 75 shot of TNT. The fact that lower LSA's don't work "well" on the bottle is myth unless you're doing something rediculous (300-350 shot)
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yes, they are not worse, just make more cylinder pressure. is it too much is the question. theres no way that cam will peak at 6500 is there? Not what I would pick, but its something different
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Originally Posted by Damian
110 LSA works fine on the bottle. I've seen ASA cammed cars (110 LSA) make 700 ft lbs of TQ on a 75 shot of TNT. The fact that lower LSA's don't work "well" on the bottle is myth unless you're doing something rediculous (300-350 shot)
well see that's the thing....I may step up to a 300 shot in the future, but for now I'm thinking 250 for the track
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Originally Posted by Mike K.
Well generally it seems the bigger the cam the more power you will make. I say go for it,
one question though isn't 11.1 or 11.2 a little to high of compression for 91 octane? I know you are gonna bleed of some compression with the cam but definatly do your homework on this one. It would suck to ruin that nice new block
10.85:1 with my tiny 230/224 cam worked great for almost 2 years; no detonation and my engine ran about 15-20 degrees warmer than it does now. I don't think another .2-.3 will make that big of a difference

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Originally Posted by verbs
well see that's the thing....I may step up to a 300 shot in the future, but for now I'm thinking 250 for the track
Don't you think a 300 shot is a little much for a 346 C.I. Motor?
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With that LSA you are going to peak VERY high. You should reconsider IMO.
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Even on a 108 ICL, a 240/248 cam is going to peak at some rediculous rpm.

I think the G5X3 is going to be sufficient. Anything bigger and you'll maybe notice 5-8 peak, and a lot of loss down low. Whats the point?

That G5X3 is an excellent nitrous stick judging from the big split figures it sports.

BTW, I think you just wanna overcam the **** out of it to make up for the lack of power you "thought" you were going to have.
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That cam on 112 will peak higher than 6500 unless you have alot of advance ground in. (In which case you should rethink your events)

Also dynamic compression of that cam with a static CR of 11:1 will have problems on 91 octane imo.

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Also dynamic compression of that cam with a static CR of 11:1 will have problems on 91 octane imo.
Which one Chris? Both of those cams mentioned have plenty of overlap which helps bleedoff compression. I dont see either of them having problems on 11:1. Single pattern sticks w/ low LSA's are the killer for dynamic compression problems, I've dealt with it personally..


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