Austin1249

I buying a magic stick 4 cam Kit with tritium retainers and Texas speed heads in the 230c range of course timing chain and oil pump. I'm going with a fast 102mm intake and tb underdrive pully on crank I have lt headers and lid question is with a good tune what hp and torque range will I be in? And will the factory t56 hold up a tranny is out of my budget I have a 9in rear. Sorry if this is in the wrong place I'm new here thanks

Austin1249

Also what size injectors???

supersick99z

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Are you dead set on the MS4 cam? IF asking advice, what are you goals and plans for the car? If I were you and were going to get injectors I'd just get 42# just to have enough and room to grow because let's face it, you'll always want more power.

Austin1249

No not dead set at all really I just don't want to whine high rpms on stock internals what cam would u recommend? My plans are to keep it as a daily driver but I want a choppy idle and great power not worried about driveablity only drive it 10-20 miles a day anyways. I really don't have a rwhp goal. How strong is the stock m6 (t56), and yes horsepower is addicting!!!! I'm at a budget around 3g wanna make most out of it. Thanks for replie

arock24

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checked out the torquer v3 yet?

Austin1249

Just did lol I'm new to the hci on ls1s seems like a great cam, you have any experience with it? What heads would be a good match

arock24

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Check out my sig..personally would have preferred to grab PRC stage 1 ls6 heads but the budget wouldn't allow so I grabbed some 243's. I'll have a video up by tomorrow hopefully, but you can check out youtube..there's a ton of videos with ls1's and v3 cams. Is your $3k for parts or parts and installation?

Austin1249

Okay I'm really new here I'm guessing sig is your profile?? What numbers you putting down with that and that's parts only doing install with some buddies should I wait till tax returns to do a built I would be in 5 to 6k range thanks for your help

Austin1249

Sorry just found what sig meant stupidity has the best of me this late also just looked out your hp number is that rwhp

arock24

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Those numbers aren't updated. I have the car tuned through HP Tuners so no Dyno numbers yet. I've never been as concerned with power numbers more than track times. IMO go with an ls6 intake (~$300-400) and put the money saved on the FAST torwards a ls7 clutch at least. You could put down around 420-440rwhp through an m6 on a dynojet with the v3 and some prc heads.

Austin1249

I didn't right all my mods I have a spec stage 2 clutch I read that the v3s are bad about killing value springs even if they are duel in less than 20k you had problems like this? and I agree with you 100% on the infante

Austin1249

Intake* a ported ls6 should do great and 5-10hp isn't worth $500 IMO sorry for sloppy writing I'm on my phone

arock24

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I haven't crossed that mileage yet, but I have several friends running the same cam in their DD's without issues so far (my main reason for choosing this cam). I pretty much assume replacing springs every 20-30k after a mild cam swap anyway. The v3 in my opinion is that balance of power and driveability without being too abusive on your set up. If you're extremely concerned with spring life, you can look at the 228R but I think you'll be leaving some power on the table. There's always the option of a custom grind too, which you have room for in your budget. Then you have a cam to meet your entire criteria. TSP could set you up with something nasty.

bww3588

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You don't want to rev the **** out of it but your looking at an ms4? That's all that cam does is rev. No two ways about it. Above 3500 it's king, but below 3500 it's worthless.

mikh338

iTrader: (16)

exactly ms4 is a top end cam. if you dont want to rev it high look at a diff cam for sure!!

Austin1249

The ms4 peak is 6400RPMs I've seen ls1 past 7 that's what I'm scared of 6500 don't bother me sorry should have cleared that up

Austin1249

After research I going against the ms4.I'm trying to find a balance between power and reliability. With a sick idle I'm in school and changing value springs every 10 to 20k isn't really in my time schedule with work and school

bww3588

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In order to make the ms4 useable with A 6400 peak, you have to turn it to 7k. You can't shift at it's peak rpm and expect it to perform like it was designed.

LS1T56FTW

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You better install Katech rod bolts in your motor, because you are going to have to spin that thing to ~7500 to actually make any power. Your car will be as close to a VTEC as possible. Don't get mad when someone with a baby cam/high torque setup like myself pulls you either.

mikh338

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lol i love it when i here these comments. i have a trex which is even bigger then an ms4 and i destroy ppl with "baby" cams constantly. i have absolutely no probs on the street. last ls1 car i beat was a h/c/i bolt on 02 ss m6 with a "baby" cam