High Torque Cams
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High Torque Cams
I'm looking for a cam that has really good low end. I'm after high torque numbers because my car doesn't really see too high of speeds, mainly just 1st-4th kind of running. My car is my daily driver. (2000 T/A, M6)
I've searched and searched and it seems like there are tons of cams out there, all I would like to do is narrow down my search because it's starting to be a little overwhelming.
Any and all ideas are welcome. Thanks!
-Michael
I've searched and searched and it seems like there are tons of cams out there, all I would like to do is narrow down my search because it's starting to be a little overwhelming.
Any and all ideas are welcome. Thanks!
-Michael
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The car does not have to pass emissions.
I plan on doing H/C/I eventually but not all at once.
I've been looking at the Tick SNS cams and they seem to be the way to go so far, I was just wondering what all is out there. There's SOOO many options!
Thanks!
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I've read through it several times myself.
MMMichael, what rpm range are you wanting your High torque in?
IMO, if you want a High torque cam that'll be a blast to drive without even breaking 4k rpm, then a 217(lsl)/222(lxl) 109lsa +0 would do the trick, and I would also recommend going with LT headers, as I would with any cam to help maximize hp/trq..
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I have a 54-428-11 comp cam its a 228/230 .571/.573 on a 112 it is very responsive even at 2000 rpm. Check it out, it may be one you would like. Its a great daily driver and heads and headers would be a plus. My wife loves driving it, but the 5.0's dont like her to.
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I have to agree, good info in that thread!
I've read through it several times myself.
MMMichael, what rpm range are you wanting your High torque in?
IMO, if you want a High torque cam that'll be a blast to drive without even breaking 4k rpm, then a 217(lsl)/222(lxl) 109lsa +0 would do the trick, and I would also recommend going with LT headers, as I would with any cam to help maximize hp/trq..
I've read through it several times myself.
MMMichael, what rpm range are you wanting your High torque in?
IMO, if you want a High torque cam that'll be a blast to drive without even breaking 4k rpm, then a 217(lsl)/222(lxl) 109lsa +0 would do the trick, and I would also recommend going with LT headers, as I would with any cam to help maximize hp/trq..
Is that cam you are talking about a custom grind? Or is that something somebody sells?
LT headers are a must for me as well, just in time. lol
Now correct me if I'm wrong, or I may just be hitting the tip, but does a lower LSA give it more down low? Could you shed a little light on that?
Thanks! Keep the suggestions coming! This is awesome!
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Not to be a post *****, but I have another question...
I read in the thread linked above someone said that having a big cam that makes decent power all around (but what I would assume to be a max effort cam) and 4.10's or so (with an M6) puts your power everywhere in the RPM range. I could understand this, but is it as bread and butter as it sounds?
I guess meaning that the gears make up for the "sluggishness" down low in the RPM's?
I read in the thread linked above someone said that having a big cam that makes decent power all around (but what I would assume to be a max effort cam) and 4.10's or so (with an M6) puts your power everywhere in the RPM range. I could understand this, but is it as bread and butter as it sounds?
I guess meaning that the gears make up for the "sluggishness" down low in the RPM's?
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Exactly. I want high torque until about 4k rpm, and anything above that will be a bonus. There are quite a few threads on here about this but there are so many biased opinions, it's hard to keep straight!
Is that cam you are talking about a custom grind? Or is that something somebody sells?
LT headers are a must for me as well, just in time. lol
Now correct me if I'm wrong, or I may just be hitting the tip, but does a lower LSA give it more down low? Could you shed a little light on that?
Thanks! Keep the suggestions coming! This is awesome!
Is that cam you are talking about a custom grind? Or is that something somebody sells?
LT headers are a must for me as well, just in time. lol
Now correct me if I'm wrong, or I may just be hitting the tip, but does a lower LSA give it more down low? Could you shed a little light on that?
Thanks! Keep the suggestions coming! This is awesome!
BTW. the 217/222 109 lsa+0 cam has about 1.5* overlap, and the lifts are .605" intake and .602" exhaust.
Here's another option: 223(lsl)/226(lxl) 109 lsa +3, the power-band and low rpm TQ should be similar but probably lower, it'll have more HP and overlap (about 6.5*) and slightly higher lift (.610" Int., .605" ext.).
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It's a custom grind, with Comp Cam lobes, and any of the sight sponsors that carry CompCams can get it ground for you. Basically yes, a narrower(lower) LSA like the 109 will have a earlier IVC and offer a further increase in DCR which means increased low-rpm torque. Combine the 109 LSA with a shorter intake duration will give a lower powerband and more low rpm TQ from additional increase in DCR.
BTW. the 217/222 109 lsa+0 cam has about 1.5* overlap, and the lifts are .605" intake and .602" exhaust.
Here's another option: 223(lsl)/226(lxl) 109 lsa +3, the power-band and low rpm TQ should be similar but probably lower, it'll have more HP and overlap (about 6.5*) and slightly higher lift (.610" Int., .605" ext.).
BTW. the 217/222 109 lsa+0 cam has about 1.5* overlap, and the lifts are .605" intake and .602" exhaust.
Here's another option: 223(lsl)/226(lxl) 109 lsa +3, the power-band and low rpm TQ should be similar but probably lower, it'll have more HP and overlap (about 6.5*) and slightly higher lift (.610" Int., .605" ext.).
So.. Let's say I pick a custom grind same/similar to the last one you mentioned, would adding a set of 4.10's make it too much?
Also, Which site sponsors are recommended? (I'm sure they're all good and maybe one will chime in)
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As far as sponsors, Tick Performance(contact Martin) , for a Comp Cam grind. I would also consider Futral Motorsports(contacting Allen), he can custom spec you a very similar grind done by Cam Motion. Whoever you go with I'd ask them their opinion on that grind, they just might have a better suggestion for your application.
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That's a option I considered recommending, but the IVC is lower than I would recommend and I'd prefer to see him go with a softer lower lift lobes on the exhaust side, like a LXL 222 or XE (high lift) 220 or 222.
IMO, I would just consider this more of a 6 liter truck cam.
IMO, I would just consider this more of a 6 liter truck cam.