High Torque Cams
High Torque Cams I'm looking for a cam that has really good low end. I'm after high torque numbers because my car doesn't really see too high of speeds, mainly just 1st-4th kind of running. My car is my daily driver. (2000 T/A, M6)
I've searched and searched and it seems like there are tons of cams out there, all I would like to do is narrow down my search because it's starting to be a little overwhelming.
Any and all ideas are welcome. Thanks!
-Michael
I've searched and searched and it seems like there are tons of cams out there, all I would like to do is narrow down my search because it's starting to be a little overwhelming.
Any and all ideas are welcome. Thanks!
-Michael
First, tell us what performance modifications have be done to the engine, or will be done along with the cam...?
Furthermore, does you car need to pass tailpipe emissions testing..?
Furthermore, does you car need to pass tailpipe emissions testing..?
Last edited by 99Bluz28; Aug 23, 2013 at 02:15 AM.
The car does not have to pass emissions.
I plan on doing H/C/I eventually but not all at once.
I've been looking at the Tick SNS cams and they seem to be the way to go so far, I was just wondering what all is out there. There's SOOO many options!
Thanks!
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MMMichael, what rpm range are you wanting your High torque in?
IMO, if you want a High torque cam that'll be a blast to drive without even breaking 4k rpm, then a 217(lsl)/222(lxl) 109lsa +0 would do the trick, and I would also recommend going with LT headers, as I would with any cam to help maximize hp/trq..
Last edited by 99Bluz28; Aug 23, 2013 at 03:45 PM.
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I have a 54-428-11 comp cam its a 228/230 .571/.573 on a 112 it is very responsive even at 2000 rpm. Check it out, it may be one you would like. Its a great daily driver and heads and headers would be a plus. My wife loves driving it, but the 5.0's dont like her to.
I have to agree, good info in that thread!
I've read through it several times myself.
MMMichael, what rpm range are you wanting your High torque in?
IMO, if you want a High torque cam that'll be a blast to drive without even breaking 4k rpm, then a 217(lsl)/222(lxl) 109lsa +0 would do the trick, and I would also recommend going with LT headers, as I would with any cam to help maximize hp/trq..
I've read through it several times myself.
MMMichael, what rpm range are you wanting your High torque in?
IMO, if you want a High torque cam that'll be a blast to drive without even breaking 4k rpm, then a 217(lsl)/222(lxl) 109lsa +0 would do the trick, and I would also recommend going with LT headers, as I would with any cam to help maximize hp/trq..
Is that cam you are talking about a custom grind? Or is that something somebody sells?
LT headers are a must for me as well, just in time. lol
Now correct me if I'm wrong, or I may just be hitting the tip, but does a lower LSA give it more down low? Could you shed a little light on that?
Thanks! Keep the suggestions coming! This is awesome!
Not to be a post *****, but I have another question...
I read in the thread linked above someone said that having a big cam that makes decent power all around (but what I would assume to be a max effort cam) and 4.10's or so (with an M6) puts your power everywhere in the RPM range. I could understand this, but is it as bread and butter as it sounds?
I guess meaning that the gears make up for the "sluggishness" down low in the RPM's?
I read in the thread linked above someone said that having a big cam that makes decent power all around (but what I would assume to be a max effort cam) and 4.10's or so (with an M6) puts your power everywhere in the RPM range. I could understand this, but is it as bread and butter as it sounds?
I guess meaning that the gears make up for the "sluggishness" down low in the RPM's?
Exactly. I want high torque until about 4k rpm, and anything above that will be a bonus. There are quite a few threads on here about this but there are so many biased opinions, it's hard to keep straight!
Is that cam you are talking about a custom grind? Or is that something somebody sells?
LT headers are a must for me as well, just in time. lol
Now correct me if I'm wrong, or I may just be hitting the tip, but does a lower LSA give it more down low? Could you shed a little light on that?
Thanks! Keep the suggestions coming! This is awesome!
Is that cam you are talking about a custom grind? Or is that something somebody sells?
LT headers are a must for me as well, just in time. lol
Now correct me if I'm wrong, or I may just be hitting the tip, but does a lower LSA give it more down low? Could you shed a little light on that?
Thanks! Keep the suggestions coming! This is awesome!
BTW. the 217/222 109 lsa+0 cam has about 1.5* overlap, and the lifts are .605" intake and .602" exhaust.
Here's another option: 223(lsl)/226(lxl) 109 lsa +3, the power-band and low rpm TQ should be similar but probably lower, it'll have more HP and overlap (about 6.5*) and slightly higher lift (.610" Int., .605" ext.).
Last edited by 99Bluz28; Aug 24, 2013 at 12:16 AM.
It's a custom grind, with Comp Cam lobes, and any of the sight sponsors that carry CompCams can get it ground for you. Basically yes, a narrower(lower) LSA like the 109 will have a earlier IVC and offer a further increase in DCR which means increased low-rpm torque. Combine the 109 LSA with a shorter intake duration will give a lower powerband and more low rpm TQ from additional increase in DCR.
BTW. the 217/222 109 lsa+0 cam has about 1.5* overlap, and the lifts are .605" intake and .602" exhaust.
Here's another option: 223(lsl)/226(lxl) 109 lsa +3, the power-band and low rpm TQ should be similar but probably lower, it'll have more HP and overlap (about 6.5*) and slightly higher lift (.610" Int., .605" ext.).
BTW. the 217/222 109 lsa+0 cam has about 1.5* overlap, and the lifts are .605" intake and .602" exhaust.
Here's another option: 223(lsl)/226(lxl) 109 lsa +3, the power-band and low rpm TQ should be similar but probably lower, it'll have more HP and overlap (about 6.5*) and slightly higher lift (.610" Int., .605" ext.).
So.. Let's say I pick a custom grind same/similar to the last one you mentioned, would adding a set of 4.10's make it too much?
Also, Which site sponsors are recommended? (I'm sure they're all good and maybe one will chime in)
As far as sponsors, Tick Performance(contact Martin) , for a Comp Cam grind. I would also consider Futral Motorsports(contacting Allen), he can custom spec you a very similar grind done by Cam Motion. Whoever you go with I'd ask them their opinion on that grind, they just might have a better suggestion for your application.
That's a option I considered recommending, but the IVC is lower than I would recommend and I'd prefer to see him go with a softer lower lift lobes on the exhaust side, like a LXL 222 or XE (high lift) 220 or 222.
IMO, I would just consider this more of a 6 liter truck cam.
IMO, I would just consider this more of a 6 liter truck cam.