Going to replace rings and go solid roller; what else do I need?
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Going to replace rings and go solid roller; what else do I need? I have been having serious oil consumption problems. About 2 qts for every tank of gas. It isn't currently a daily driver so I'm just guessing but it's about that much. I'm thinking it must be the rings so I am going to replace them and go ahead and do a solid roller setup at the same time. It is currently a 422. I have a few questions though.
What size rings do I need?
Anything else I should replace while I'm in there?
What are THE BEST head gaskets to use?
I know I need new lifters, cam, head gaskets and bolts. What else? My heads have all the goodies so they should be good to go.
Let me know anything I am forgetting.
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<small>[ April 08, 2003, 12:04 PM: Message edited by: Beeler311 ]</small>
What size rings do I need?
Anything else I should replace while I'm in there?
What are THE BEST head gaskets to use?
I know I need new lifters, cam, head gaskets and bolts. What else? My heads have all the goodies so they should be good to go.
Let me know anything I am forgetting.
Thanks!!!
<small>[ April 08, 2003, 12:04 PM: Message edited by: Beeler311 ]</small>
04-06-2003, 06:52 PM
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Re: Going to replace rings and go solid roller; what else do I need? Talk to one of the sponsors. You will need an adjustable valve train (i.e. Jesel Rockers) and some very serious valve springs for one.
04-06-2003, 07:41 PM
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Re: Going to replace rings and go solid roller; what else do I need? If you are serious about doing it, I would talk to Allan @ Futral Motorsports. He seems to know quite a bit about solid roller setups. You will need beefier springs, different pushrods, T+D rockers, camshaft,solid lifters, and modifications to the heads themselves, as well as valve cover spacers or C5R covers.
04-06-2003, 11:46 PM
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Re: Going to replace rings and go solid roller; what else do I need? Yeah those were all things I was thinking. I think my springs are fine though. I forgot which springs they are but they are definately overkill for a hydrolic cam. Here's a pic. What do you think?
<img src="http://www.cooperhomehealth.com/DSC00788.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.cooperhomehealth.com/DSC00789.jpg" alt=" - " />
My heads had to be modified quite a bit just to get them to fit. As far as pushrods go, do I need to get thicker ones or just a different length? They're just chromoly 7.35 pushrods.
<small>[ April 06, 2003, 11:58 PM: Message edited by: Beeler311 ]</small>
<img src="http://www.cooperhomehealth.com/DSC00788.jpg" alt=" - " />
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My heads had to be modified quite a bit just to get them to fit. As far as pushrods go, do I need to get thicker ones or just a different length? They're just chromoly 7.35 pushrods.
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04-09-2003, 12:18 AM
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Re: Going to replace rings and go solid roller; what else do I need? Why don't you just call MTI and ask them, since they built the motor? Depending on how radical of a solid cam you want, you will probably need new springs.
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Re: Going to replace rings and go solid roller; what else do I need? The heads have to come off and you have to enlarge the pushrod holes.
Alan from FMS is a one SR expert, I'd keep him in mind for sure.
Alan from FMS is a one SR expert, I'd keep him in mind for sure.
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Re: Going to replace rings and go solid roller; what else do I need? I've been watching / learning about this as well, and can tell that the wrong combination of parts will at the least destroy valvesprings or valve seats, at the worst, well, a dropped valve wouldn't be good.
If you know for sure the spring pressure - open and closed - of your valvetrain, that would be beneficial, but I seriously doubt it's high enough for solid roller.
Thunder Racing is another one to talk to. Geoff has some good ideas on SR stuff too. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> And hopefully next week...... <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
-Andrew
If you know for sure the spring pressure - open and closed - of your valvetrain, that would be beneficial, but I seriously doubt it's high enough for solid roller.
Thunder Racing is another one to talk to. Geoff has some good ideas on SR stuff too. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> And hopefully next week...... <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
-Andrew
