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Old 07-16-2005, 07:31 PM
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i have a sleeved block that was done by a local machine shop that does them all the time and never has a problem. my car sense i first started it (new motor) smoked white alot i thought it was the ring need to be seated. after a lil time it start pushing antifreeze out the exhaust i noticed it. and the oil has water in it. so i took the pass isde head off and the # 4 and # 6 cylinders had very very lil milkey oil on the intake valves. the head gasget looks perfect. also theintake runners have a lil oil on them is this from the pcv valve pulling oil into the intake
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if it was a sleeve it whould not be pushing it out the exhaust rite?
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alos im using a felpro 1041 with a 4.100 bore and also 2 of the head bolts treads where milky when i took them out by the # 4 and 6 cylinder

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With it having a small amount on the intake valves is whats weird to me. With coolant coming out the exhaust from a liner, the liner itself would have to be cracked or dropped to cause this IMHO. Hope ya find whats wrong and it be something simple
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If not torqued properly, the 1041's will leak. Check your heads for a crack in the runners, and also check the block. How much water was in the oil?
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the intake runners wherefine i whould say about 2qts of water. i followed the tq specs i hand tightened the head bolt then followed the patter at 70ft pounds
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both heads are off now and both head gasgets look fine
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Take the heads to a good shop and have them pressure checked. If they are good, problem is in the block.

Bo is probably right about the replacement sleeve being either cracked or not flush with the surface of the block deck. There is also the possiblity coolant is seeping between the block and sleeve into the crankcase.

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figures i bought the block from him probly why he sold it to me
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Originally Posted by Steve - Race Eng
Take the heads to a good shop and have them pressure checked. If they are good, problem is in the block.

Bo is probably right about the replacement sleeve being either cracked or not flush with the surface of the block deck. There is also the possiblity coolant is seeping between the block and sleeve into the crankcase.

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if it was seeping between the block and sleeve into the crank case why whold it b pushing out the exhaust and only certin exhaust ports have anti freeze in them.
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You might have two problems, cracked heads and bad block. Get the heads checked first by pressure checking, preferably hot. If the heads are good, you know for sure the problem is in the block. If the heads are cracked you may still have a problem with the block.

I realize the short block is still in the car or I would recommend you have the block pressure checked along with the heads.

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if it was seeping between the block and sleeve into the crank case why whold it b pushing out the exhaust and only certin exhaust ports have anti freeze in them.
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can any machien shop presure check an ls1 head or do they have to have somehtig special to presure check it
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The newer pressure testing machines will work with any head. These use clamps and rubber pads to block the deck coolant holes.

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can any machien shop presure check an ls1 head or do they have to have somehtig special to presure check it
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its the block i just used a dial indicator and the #s 1 3 4 6 are about .004 to .005 lower then the block. and thoes are the ones that are wet in the header primarys
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Damn that sucks man..
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You have the contact info for the machine shop that done the work(they knew it wasnt my block anymore). I originally was going to have the block done for myself but seen you were lookin for one and I didnt really need it at the time. I have another block at the same shop being sleeved now for myself. I seen the block after it was machined before the sleeves went in and none of the cylinders never went to water so I dont know other than that. I also understand posting up and asking the community what they thought as I would myself if it was me but I would talk with them tomorrow as well. I sold you the block because I trust the work that was done on it, not the alternative.
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B0-Thanks for wasting my money and time if this machine shop was so great they should have check the deck. im not gona post back and forth on here about it. u guys screwed me outa the money this block is a pos now i gota see if i can have it decked and presure checked.

anyways can this block be decked if so can just about any machine shop do it?
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also i bought the block from Bo white not the machine shop i sent Bo the money and all i get from him to some it up is hes just passing the buck i ecpect him to do something to make it rite
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gona give a few calls tomorrow and see what some local vendors say
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Damn there is all kinds of crazy **** going on this weekend...

And thats why I'm goin with a iron block.. no sleeves, no worries! lol



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