Anyone up for a .644/598 112LSA hydraulic cam?
08-08-2005, 02:52 PM
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Anyone up for a 231/234 .644/598 112LSA hydraulic cam? The mod bug got the best of me this weekend at Thunder Racing. After running 411 rwhp with stock manifolds and cats with the CheaTR cam (215/230 .600/.578), we added Kooks headers and catted y-pipe and made 433 rwhp and 399 torque. Since the car was no longer as stealthy with the Kooks headers, we went ahead tried out a bigger cam.
Thunder Racing has a new line of cams aimed at the hard core strip warriers. The first one is the TRak cam (Thunder Racing ass kicker). Check out the specs: 231/234 .644/.598 112LSA. Although we could have shimmed the springs that came stock on my AFR 205s, we went ahead and swapped to Comp 921 (for added rev ability).
The results are in the dyno graph below. Keep in mind, this was done with catted Kooks y-pipe and SLP Dual Dual in place. Dyno temps were 99 degrees. Since we picked up around 10 rwhp with the cutout, this leads me to believe that running an off-road y-pipe would lead to similar increases in power (for another 10). A better exhaust (HVMC headers, true duals) would certainly give better gains.
The TRak cam compares closely to the FMS F-13 except the TRak cam has 1 degree less of overlap at .006" and the TRAK cam has about 6 degrees more duration on the intake at .200" lift. Sucker revs like a ****! Street manners are great. Not very noisy either.
Thunder Racing has a new line of cams aimed at the hard core strip warriers. The first one is the TRak cam (Thunder Racing ass kicker). Check out the specs: 231/234 .644/.598 112LSA. Although we could have shimmed the springs that came stock on my AFR 205s, we went ahead and swapped to Comp 921 (for added rev ability).
The results are in the dyno graph below. Keep in mind, this was done with catted Kooks y-pipe and SLP Dual Dual in place. Dyno temps were 99 degrees. Since we picked up around 10 rwhp with the cutout, this leads me to believe that running an off-road y-pipe would lead to similar increases in power (for another 10). A better exhaust (HVMC headers, true duals) would certainly give better gains.
The TRak cam compares closely to the FMS F-13 except the TRak cam has 1 degree less of overlap at .006" and the TRAK cam has about 6 degrees more duration on the intake at .200" lift. Sucker revs like a ****! Street manners are great. Not very noisy either.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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Last edited by Patrick G; 08-08-2005 at 04:08 PM.
08-08-2005, 03:13 PM
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"TRAK".... 
Gotta LOVE the cam lingo!
Hats off to you and all the guys at Thunder Racing that have been thrashing lately on your F-Body for what seems like a week straight!!
All of the results were impressive and the info shared from all the testing gives everyone some food for thought.
The stroker is coming when??
(Can you say "bitten by the mod bug"!)
Gotta LOVE the cam lingo!
Hats off to you and all the guys at Thunder Racing that have been thrashing lately on your F-Body for what seems like a week straight!!
All of the results were impressive and the info shared from all the testing gives everyone some food for thought.
The stroker is coming when??
(Can you say "bitten by the mod bug"!)
08-08-2005, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JBIRD02
Awesome #'s!!!! 
Is there any advance ground into that cam, and are there any P to V issuse with a .644 lift?
Is there any advance ground into that cam, and are there any P to V issuse with a .644 lift?
08-08-2005, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JBIRD02
Awesome #'s!!!! Is there any advance ground into that cam, and are there any P to V issuse with a .644 lift?
Is there any advance ground into that cam, and are there any P to V issuse with a .644 lift?How much advance or is it ground straight up???
Oops.. posted at same time...
08-08-2005, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Cam is ground (+2). No P to V issues with stock unmilled heads. Maximum lift occurs when the piston is at the bottom of the block. It's the duration that makes piston to valve clearance tight with some cams.
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08-08-2005, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Wait, so the 454 was with the cutout open? It does seem to be down on power a tad. Should be a hoot to drive, though.
I'll take 454 with cats and a D/D muffler/tailpipes.
08-08-2005, 04:32 PM
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Have you tried it with your NEW NX MAF nitrous system yet? Or is the MAF plate too small for a combo like yours?
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
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08-09-2005, 12:35 PM
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Damn Patrick....you're just havin FUN with that car. Must be nice to leave your car at the shop and just keep swappin stuff around 
Congrats on the awesome results. That cam looks kinda like my F13 like you said.....except with a good bit healthier dose of duration on the intake!!
Congrats on the awesome results. That cam looks kinda like my F13 like you said.....except with a good bit healthier dose of duration on the intake!!
08-09-2005, 07:20 PM
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Those are awesome peak #'s, but I have a question. It looks like you've lost a lot of power under the curve. How does torque feel just putting around town? I know that under racing conditions you'll spend time in the higher RPM where that cam outperforms the CheaTR cam, but the CheaTR looks like a more "all around" cam. I haven't driven either cam, so I really have no frame of reference. I am just trying to get a "feel vs feel" comparison.
