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Old 08-25-2005, 08:46 PM
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I see that Summit has this heads and cam package for $1800 for my 2001. Has anyone tried this and do you think it would be enough bang for the buck?

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Well I don't know what your goals are but you may be disappointed with the LS6 cam. I had one in my car for a while and it was great from a driveability standpoint but I did not gain enough power to make the swap worthwhile. LS6 heads are supposed to be decent "out of the box" heads though. Hopefully someone else will chime in with some advice on the heads. That is my .02
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Hugger has a valid point. You need to let us know what your goals are.
You can buy a set of very low milage LS6 heads, a LS6 cam, new head bolts and a whole gasket kit for the head and cam swap for less money then 1800 if you do some searching.
What will you gain with this? Probally a solid 30-40 RWHP.
IMO there are 2 sets of heads that will whip the **** out of stock LS6 heads for a similar price. TEA makes a stage 1 head for 995 and Patroit has a stage 1 or stage 2 for a similar price tag. All of which are CnC ported and will make more power then a LS6 head.
As far as cam goes. You option's are almost endless.
If you want a VERY stock sounding car try something like a 220/224 55x.55x 117LSA.
That would be stealthy as hell and give a nice gain over a LS6 cam.
Let us know your goals and budget and we can add some better suggestions.
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don't waste your money man. you can get so much more out of your money.
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Well you will make alot more power on the dyno with a bigger cam but I went alot faster so far with the LS6 stock combo and I have now with this new power. I made 394 with LS6 cam and 426 with f13 but went faster with LS6 so its all in what you want.
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Originally Posted by Evans752
Well you will make alot more power on the dyno with a bigger cam but I went alot faster so far with the LS6 stock combo and I have now with this new power. I made 394 with LS6 cam and 426 with f13 but went faster with LS6 so its all in what you want.


There is a reason for that, and the reason ISN'T because the old combo was a better track combo.
The reason is you have more power and probally cant hook as well, have the wrong gear for the new power, weather conditions are worse, etc.
If you added a cam and picked up power through the band you should run a faster time. I bet your MPH was better....
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I went 1 1/2 MPH. Im not saying that there isnt a better set up out there but EVERYONE always talks neg about the LS6 cam and other cams just because there not monster lift and duration cams. There is NOTHING wrong with the smaller cams is all Im saying.
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Originally Posted by Evans752
I went 1 1/2 MPH. Im not saying that there isnt a better set up out there but EVERYONE always talks neg about the LS6 cam and other cams just because there not monster lift and duration cams. There is NOTHING wrong with the smaller cams is all Im saying.

In your sig with the F13 is that 422/389 on stock heads through a 12 bolt & 4.10's ?
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Originally Posted by Evans752
I went 1 1/2 MPH. Im not saying that there isnt a better set up out there but EVERYONE always talks neg about the LS6 cam and other cams just because there not monster lift and duration cams. There is NOTHING wrong with the smaller cams is all Im saying.
True, smaller cams have their place but if Way2Tuff is traction limited, then a slightly bigger cam may be the best mod and not spend money on heads. As JZ pointed out, a bigger cam like a 224/224 115 might be all he needs and is easily tuned for good street manners.
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Originally Posted by Evans752
I went 1 1/2 MPH. Im not saying that there isnt a better set up out there but EVERYONE always talks neg about the LS6 cam and other cams just because there not monster lift and duration cams. There is NOTHING wrong with the smaller cams is all Im saying.


The LS6 is acturally a damn nice cam.
I gained 20 RWHP in a 2002 A4 cars about 2 years ago with the cam.
Gained another 19 HP going with a 224/228 cam a few weeks later.
That is when I began doing my best to test different heads, and different cams in the LS1.
Monster duration and huge lift is not needed to make power. There are better cams then the LS6 cam that have great driveability, pass emmissions, sound stock, and still require a cheeper single spring.
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Will this kit be good to run with an STS turbo? I'd like it to sound stock until the turbo spools up.

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The LS6 is acturally a damn nice cam.
I gained 20 RWHP in a 2002 A4 cars about 2 years ago with the cam.
Gained another 19 HP going with a 224/228 cam a few weeks later.
I dont understand..If according to what you said, why is it a good cam if another small cam will give him double the gains?

I say go with something larger than a LS6 cam. I had a 224/224, and was fun and all, but i neeeded more, so I went with a G4x4. It pulls very nice and very drivable. Idles almost as good as my 224/224 on a 112, just wonders a little once in a while. I just need a larger converter to go with it.
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I'd go GT2-3/CNC LS6 milled .060/Longtubes wih HF cats/PTB and Pulley..
It will make great power and be very drivable...

JZ said u could buy PP or TEA heads and save some coin.....
I'd have to agree,this would be a better option....GT2-3/TEA S1.5/Longtubes w/cats/PTB and Pulley
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I say go with these... http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...23&prmenbr=361

And a FMS 224/224 if you are trying to stay with a small cam. You will see way more power... and you will be in the same price range.

Heads: $1300
Cam : $400
Pushrods $100

Now add in a LS2 timing chain, maybe a new oil pump, and gaskets, headbolts and you will be rocking.

My version of the swap is about $200 more materials wise... but the gains you get over an LS6 swap is awesome.

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Sounds like a hell of a good idea to me.




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