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Old 01-15-2006, 11:36 PM
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Default Patriot 5.3L head/cam/rocker???

I am making a semi-budget build up on my first LS1, my goal is for 420-450rwhp in my 88 rx7. Semi-budget meaning if its really worth it I will cough up the money.

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...ch&Ntt=patriot

If I go with this kit, LT's, full 3" x-pipe exhaust, ls6 intake/throttle body, and 42# injectors will I be in my desired power range? Will I need a ported oil pump? and should I look at the fast 90/90? remember that I'm trying to keep the cost way down.
Looking for feedback before I make any decisions, especially from people that have this kit.

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You mean this?
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...ch&Ntt=patriot


Good product, and great for those on a budget.
It will be hard to get 450 with this setup but over 400 shouldn't be a problem.
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geez sorry about that. thanks for the heads up on the link:
heres what I meant

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp

If I go with the fast 90/90 where would I sit?
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Stock rockers are fine (assuming you have stockers).
Save that cash for something else.

If you're on a budget, check these head options out.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsor-sales-specials/435737-new-prc-ls6-cnc-cylinder-heads-849pr.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsor-sales-specials/423148-new-patriot-cnc-ported-243-castings-845-00-per-pair.html
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Wow is that price including rockers as well?
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Take a look at our 243 CNC ported castings. We can do a set of these heads with cam, Harland Sharp Non-adjustable rockers, New MLS GM head gaskets, NEW OEM head bolts and shipping for as little as $1800.00 shipped to you.

These will be our 243 CNC ported castings be assembled with OEM 2.00"/1.55" (non sodium) valves, OEM guides and our Patriot Gold .650" spring kit. Thi will come with your choice of our 226/226 or 232/230 camshaft and choice of 1.7 or 1.8 Harland Sharp roller rockers. The flow at .200" will be in the 145-150 range, at .400" 249-255 range, and at .600" 299-302 range.

We do have other options available. Please give us a call if you have any questions.
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Those texas speed heads look like a great deal. 850 for a pair/assembled. This H/C decision is always tricky with so many deals, with 850 in the heads that leaves me lots of room for a good cam, and I like that. But there is so much valvetrain included with the Patriot deal and a cam. Does the stock valve train need to be upgraded that badly or can I make it work with the Texas speed heads? What cam would work best in the Texas speed heads? the car wont be a daily driver so I'm willing to get a little crazy
Right now I dont have stocker anything other than a block, crank, pistons and covers.
Thanks for the help. keep it coming
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Originally Posted by SMonty
with 850 in the heads that leaves me lots of room for a good cam, and I like that.
If you are talking about price....most cams run about the same. 250-450 range.
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We can do a set of the 243 castings assembled with oem valves and LS6 springs for $865.00 per pair, assembled. We will include at no extra charge New MLS GM head gaskets and OEM head bolts !!
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Can you give me flow numbers on those gunnar? and how much extra to just have the springs upgraded?
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what would be the best head to get for my stock bottom end and bore size ls1 with my TSP 233-239 cam lifts 603 thanks
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Originally Posted by SMonty
Can you give me flow numbers on those gunnar? and how much extra to just have the springs upgraded?
Here are some flow numbers on a set of these heads. Heads were flowed on our Superflow 1020, 3.905" Bore, using a clay radius, and pipe:

.100" 75 / 62
.200" 154 / 121
.300" 215 / 165
.400" 254 / 200
.500" 285 / 217
.550" 292 / 221
.600" 301 / 226

We can do a set with 2.00"/1.55" valves and our Patriot Gold springs with shipping, MLS head gaskets and bolts for $1125.00.
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Originally Posted by camarokid94
what would be the best head to get for my stock bottom end and bore size ls1 with my TSP 233-239 cam lifts 603 thanks

As far as the 243 castings go, we can do the set with the 2.00"/1.55" to help give you the most PTV clearance, use our Patriot Gold springs with ti retainers, super 7 locks, viton seals, with shipping, GM MLS head gaskets, and OEM head bolts, the total would be $1,125.00.




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