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Old 02-13-2006, 07:48 PM
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how much heavier is the 6.0 iron block than the ls1 346?
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It is about 105 lbs. heavier than an ls1 alluminum block.
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is worth getting a heavy 427 iron block?
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I would try to get one of those new 6.2L blocks that are 4.065" bore and do an alluminum 415 ci with a 4" stroke. I have an iron 422ci and like it, but why go iron if you don't have to.
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
It is about 105 lbs. heavier than an ls1 alluminum block.
Where do yall get these bogus numbers?!
According to Will Handzel, author of How to Build High Perfromance Chevy LS1/LS6 V8s, the aluminum block weighs 107 lbs and the iron block weighs 65 lbs more.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Where do yall get these bogus numbers?!
According to Will Handzel, author of How to Build High Perfromance Chevy LS1/LS6 V8s, the aluminum block weighs 107 lbs and the iron block weighs 65 lbs more.
I think I read 63lbs. was the weight difference in some GM literature. Either way, it's not very much more.

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Im pretty sure I have seen several people weight them for shipping and the general concensus was right around 100 lbs AFAIK.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Where do yall get these bogus numbers?!
According to Will Handzel, author of How to Build High Perfromance Chevy LS1/LS6 V8s, the aluminum block weighs 107 lbs and the iron block weighs 65 lbs more.
Well I guess I get these bogus numbers from weighing the blocks since I have built a few iron and alluminum ls motors. I don't rely on some book to get information. I do have an iron motor in my car right now.
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true, about why get iron when you dont have to! on you 422 ci what power do you get out of it?
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well i still have to think on how much power i want to produce, irons are better for max hp, so maybe ill swing that way
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I'd get an aluminum block if your going to stay NA or w/ a little boost or shot of nitrous. Most guys go with iron blocks because they tend to be stronger so they use them on high boost setups or a big shot of nitrous. They hold the power better than an aluminum block but they do weigh more so it's just according to what your looking to build.
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I am making a little under 500. I have sprayed it over 600 rwhp though. I may do a turbo soon. I bought the iron back in 02 when iron 6.0 or 5.7 ls1 resleeves where the only ways to get bigger cubes. I went iron to avoid coolant leaking issues and don't regret it. I just think that with the new release of some gm blocks and aftermarket that there are better options. I would rather opt for less weight if it suits the application requirements. Let me know if you need a block because my friend down in costa mesa can get you anything just about stock block wise.
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
Well I guess I get these bogus numbers from weighing the blocks since I have built a few iron and alluminum ls motors. I don't rely on some book to get information. I do have an iron motor in my car right now.
I just figured a GM engineer would know, if I get a chance I'll weigh the iron block I have sitting in my garage.
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You would get an iron block because the LS1 is one of the worst engines ever made by GM. The oil pump is very weak and the aluminum is too weak for high power situations. As the engine heats up the aluminum will warp a lot more than an iron block. Not saying that the LS1 is futile, I like it a lot. I'm just saying an iron block is superior for durability. The extra 100 lbs. isn't much at all.
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Worst engine GM ever made??
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Originally Posted by adillhoff
You would get an iron block because the LS1 is one of the worst engines ever made by GM. The oil pump is very weak and the aluminum is too weak for high power situations. As the engine heats up the aluminum will warp a lot more than an iron block. Not saying that the LS1 is futile, I like it a lot. I'm just saying an iron block is superior for durability. The extra 100 lbs. isn't much at all.

Your opening a can of worms with about everyone on here.
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Originally Posted by adillhoff
You would get an iron block because the LS1 is one of the worst engines ever made by GM. The oil pump is very weak and the aluminum is too weak for high power situations. As the engine heats up the aluminum will warp a lot more than an iron block. Not saying that the LS1 is futile, I like it a lot. I'm just saying an iron block is superior for durability. The extra 100 lbs. isn't much at all.
Please reference one verified account of someone splitting an lsx block. Just gimme one. It just dosnt happen, man. The heads will lift way before you split a block!
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Originally Posted by adillhoff
You would get an iron block because the LS1 is one of the worst engines ever made by GM. The oil pump is very weak and the aluminum is too weak for high power situations. As the engine heats up the aluminum will warp a lot more than an iron block. Not saying that the LS1 is futile, I like it a lot. I'm just saying an iron block is superior for durability. The extra 100 lbs. isn't much at all.
Oil pump issue was fixed like 4 years ago. High power? Such as what? People run lots of power in the stock blocks and cranks. Pistons and rods (the weak points) are usually good to 600crank HP. Sure, the irons are more durable, but unless you are nearing mega power levels, the LS1 is fine.

Worst engine ever made by GM, thats some funny ****.
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Originally Posted by adillhoff
You would get an iron block because the LS1 is one of the worst engines ever made by GM. The oil pump is very weak and the aluminum is too weak for high power situations. As the engine heats up the aluminum will warp a lot more than an iron block. Not saying that the LS1 is futile, I like it a lot. I'm just saying an iron block is superior for durability. The extra 100 lbs. isn't much at all.

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that guy is totally right! the 118hp 2.2L in my 98 s10 is WWWAAAYYYYY
better than by OLD CRAPPY 400rwhp LS1.

id take that noisey, gutless, piece of **** any day!

im actually thinking of doing a swap.... and ditching that P>O>S LS1 and throwing in my bad *** 2.2L!

i cant wait.



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