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Old 05-14-2006, 10:15 AM
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Default Pick a cam for a 2.73 geared, 3200 stall car

A buddy of mine wants a great cam matched up to his bolt ons/yank ss 3200/2.73 geared car. He wants to take the best advantage of his setup. I wanted to recommend a big cam but am afraid with his gearing and stall it'll fall flat in the low/midrange. Any cam experts out there that know better?

This is an a4 btw.
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id say get somnething with a higher LSA like 116 or 117 something thats a split pattern
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GO big or go home i say with that stall he should be good....get the ms3 or the t-rex or somthing big. get a set of ported heads if you can and other suporting mods like exhaust and the like. and you will be screaming
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No you won't with such cams and those gears.
I recommend a 224/228, .581/.588 111+1
That cam will peak at 6200 (42 IVC), Great trq in midrange (46 EVO) and an equidistant
2* from TDC (IVO,EVC) will make it carry flatly to 6500 shifts.
4* positive overlap for a good lope.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
No you won't with such cams and those gears.
I recommend a 224/228, .581/.588 111+1
That cam will peak at 6200 (42 IVC), Great trq in midrange (46 EVO) and an equidistant
2* from TDC (IVO,EVC) will make it carry flatly to 6500 shifts.
4* positive overlap for a good lope.
thanks man!!! this is the type of answer I was looking for, I know there's more to it than just going big.
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thanks for the ???
JT,

i think the could have noticed it is an a4 since the yank was mentioned
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id suggest a gear swap
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the key is to maximize track performance without sacrificing highway mileage.

he already pulled a 13.001 at 107 without a tune or converter. i'm guessing he could knock off close to a full second with tires, the converter, cam and a tune.
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I'm running the FM13 230"/232" .595"/.585" 114LSA with a TCI 3000 stall and 2.73s. I knocked off almost 1.5 seconds off my time ( 1.4 to be exact). The 2.73s are killing my trans and converter so I'm going with 3.42 in a couple of weeks. Goodluck
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
No you won't with such cams and those gears.
I recommend a 224/228, .581/.588 111+1
That cam will peak at 6200 (42 IVC), Great trq in midrange (46 EVO) and an equidistant
2* from TDC (IVO,EVC) will make it carry flatly to 6500 shifts.
4* positive overlap for a good lope.
why not go with a 110+0 LSA on this? this is what im thinkin bout w/ my 3.23 gears.
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Originally Posted by Z28/2002
I'm running the FM13 230"/232" .595"/.585" 114LSA with a TCI 3000 stall and 2.73s. I knocked off almost 1.5 seconds off my time ( 1.4 to be exact). The 2.73s are killing my trans and converter so I'm going with 3.42 in a couple of weeks. Goodluck

killing your trans and tc ??
can you elaborate on this please
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Originally Posted by gavspurplez
killing your trans and tc ??
can you elaborate on this please
It's making the converter work harder to get the car going causing it to generate more heat. The first time I lost second, 3rd & 4th gear clutches were bad and a few other things. This caused a lot of trash go get in the converter and part of the pump had a big gouge (sp?) in it from the shavings. There are times where the car locks the trans in second now. So it's time for a Level 4
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any ways to prevent hurting the tranny?
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Originally Posted by SSPEEDY
the key is to maximize track performance without sacrificing highway mileage.

he already pulled a 13.001 at 107 without a tune or converter. i'm guessing he could knock off close to a full second with tires, the converter, cam and a tune.
umm...i had the 2.73 problem at one time...i also drive 70+ miles each day. I went with 3.42's and lost a whopping 1-2 MPG...instead of tach being at 2000@80MPH, im now at 2450@80MPH

Will update with times next week, but last run with 2.73's car ran 13.9. Car should run between 12.8-13.3 with the few mods ive done since.
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Originally Posted by jlashley2001ss
any ways to prevent hurting the tranny?
Catch it early if you think something is wrong. If the car isn't a daily driver then go with a TH400 but if it is then instead of rebuilding when that time comes go with one from Rock-On or FLT. Search around here Automatic Transmission for more info.
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Originally Posted by jlashley2001ss
why not go with a 110+0 LSA on this? this is what im thinkin bout w/ my 3.23 gears.
0.050
224/228,110LSA/110ICL


2>IVO
42>IVC(peak 6200rpm)
44>EVO(Great low-mid trq)
4>EVC
110>ECL
6>Overlap(more lope)

This cam will be a tad more peaky and will carry (later EVC relative to IVO from TDC)

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Originally Posted by Z28/2002
Catch it early if you think something is wrong. If the car isn't a daily driver then go with a TH400 but if it is then instead of rebuilding when that time comes go with one from Rock-On or FLT. Search around here Automatic Transmission for more info.

my car is not a daily driver. but it does get driven, enough, i guess you could say.

how many miles do you think you drove when you started seeing this problem ??
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It's jacked up again and I am going to drive it until the trans lets loose. I've got about 3000 miles on it since the rebuild and it is going to Ohio in a week so when I order the new one this one will have about 5K on it
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Im actually having a F13 112lsa and heads installed with a yank ss3600 stall in my c5 a4 with 2:73 gears. Its only for a few months untill i get the 3:73s or maybe 3:90 gears, but untill then i think it will be fine. just make sure you install a tranny cooler.
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trans cooler 24k installed
same time as TC


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