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Old 09-11-2006, 03:09 PM
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Default Just got my 243 Heads from Patriot: Should I do some mild home porting?

Should I home port them before putting them in? Im afraid of doing the intake side because i don't want it TOO smooth and i don't want to take off TOO much material and lose flow, . . unless someone could advise me otherwise, . . . I will probably jus remove some casting irregularities on the exhaust port and smooth it out too, . . anybody have any opinions? any good tips or sites to look up? should i smooth out the combustion chamber?

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I take it these aren't CNC ported?
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nope . . .
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well I ported a set for my LT1 car and working on a set of LS1 heads right now. I can forward you some pics Ive saved along the way to use for reference. one of the best things you can do is clean up all the bowl area's. where the casting lines are and esp. the bad lips that the valve seats make. smooth that out. also, you wont hurt anything by grinding down the valve guides and smoothing them over. I dont mean completly but down to the diam. of the guide at the top and radius it out toward the bottom. infact, im taking pics of the second head step by step I can send you pics of that so you can easily see how ea. step looks like. Im not hoging mine out, just smoothing everything, taking out all the lard, and taking out the bump in the intake wall that ws there to cover the rocker stud bolt at the bottom. I'll try to send you some pics tonight, and the one Im working on currently I'll send tomorrow night. I got the first ports (intake and exh) flow tested at ETPerformance and they thought it came out really good too. not quite PRO quality but I got most of the extra flow up top, and more flow down low then most CNC heads.
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I'm in the same boat. Got my 243 heads today. Irocss85 can you send me the pics also? PM me and I'll send you my email.
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DEFINATELY port them!!! I had good results doing the standard treatments to a set of 241 heads.
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cool, send pics please!
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GuitsBoy, what gaskets are you running? what sized valves?

Did you measure PTV clearance for your setup?

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Originally Posted by Studytime
GuitsBoy, what gaskets are you running? what sized valves?

Did you measure PTV clearance for your setup?

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Im running GM 5.7L MLS (now reportedly .054) gaskets. I have stock valves. I didnt measure my P to V before flycutting since I knew I was going to mill .040 and have to flycut anyway. Heres some misc flycutting pics along with my home made tool: http://picasaweb.google.com/GuitsBoy/LS1EnginePics
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Originally Posted by Studytime
GuitsBoy, what gaskets are you running? what sized valves?

Did you measure PTV clearance for your setup?

Ben T.
From my experience with 243's and aftermarket valves, I'd keep the stock valves to maximize PTV clearance. The margin of the valve eats up a lot of PTV Clearance. The diameter does too, but not as much. Like GuitsBoy said, def. port them. Try not to take out too much material to keep the port small. Your not making the port BIGGER to gain cfm, you should be smoothening out the port to gain cfm.

A gasket size of .040 would be great for your application. You want to maximize DCR and the thinner gasket (specificially the .040) does a great job of this. Here are some pics of my 243's.







You'll want to make the intake port a bit rougher than what's pictured though.

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very nice . . you did them yourself?
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wait, . . . do you have any valve guides on that?!?!?!?!
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Valve guides? Yeah, they've just been blended into the shape of the port. Patriot did the cnc work, and then hand finished them.

When you do the porting, you can keep the exhaust and combustion chamber smooth, but you'll want a little more rough of a texture to the intake port.

Check out this thread to see what a really good port looks like:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/514551-dart-225-after-info.html
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i've read that mild smoothing of the intake floor, wall and ceiling is beneficial, just not to TOO smooth, . . . then i've read that rough, rigid is better because it packs in air better, . . . .so, . . .???? . . but yeah, i'll be mildly smoothing the combustion chamber and porting and blending the exhaust ports along with blending in the valve bowls in both intake and exhaust



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