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228/232 .588/.592 110LSA (+1) VS. a TR224/224 .563/.563 112
09-21-2006, 08:41 AM
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228/232 .588/.592 110LSA (+1) VS. a TR224/224 .563/.563 112 what cam would be the best choice for a street cam? I am looking for a cam that will give me added power everywhere, not just at the top end. I want something that will have decent street manners after a tune but at the same time have a bit of a lope but not something with a outrageous lope. I want something that will give me a fair amount of torque on the lower end. I basically am looking for a cam that will maximize the "area under the curve". I would like to see peak numbers close to 400 RWHP, but peak numbers are not as important to me as to sacrifice my lower/midrange power. I have a 6 speed 2000 Firehawk with stock heads, LT's, ORY, a ported TB and 3.73 gears.
Also, what are the main differences I would see in those two cams if I were to install them back to back and have them dynoed? What differences would I feel on the street between the two?
thanks,
Paul
Also, what are the main differences I would see in those two cams if I were to install them back to back and have them dynoed? What differences would I feel on the street between the two?
thanks,
Paul
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09-21-2006, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by N4cer
Why the 224 with the .563 lift? Why not one like mine, with the .581 lift for more power?
is yours the TR224 that's on TR's site with just a larger lift? Good point, I am just getting info right now so I can decide later what I want to do.
09-21-2006, 09:16 AM
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If you're putting that as cam only on a LS1 it is better to have it as
228/232, 110 +2 to raise your DCR a little more
The 228 will make more power, how much, well at least 10>15
228/232, 110 +2 to raise your DCR a little more
The 228 will make more power, how much, well at least 10>15
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09-21-2006, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
If you're putting that as cam only on a LS1 it is better to have it as
228/232, 110 +2 to raise your DCR a little more
The 228 will make more power, how much, well at least 10>15
228/232, 110 +2 to raise your DCR a little more
The 228 will make more power, how much, well at least 10>15
FWIW, I had tr224, then went with TSP torquer 2, but before i installed it, i did a lot of research, and Patrick G and Predator-Z, guided me with the 228/232, 110+2 lsa, for the exact above reasons, to raise the DCR.
Also, in the process of the research, I was told that for stock heads a +4 would work a little better, since this cam likes >11.0:1 CR.
Predator-Z, did i understand that correctly?
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
09-21-2006, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jegten
+1
FWIW, I had tr224, then went with TSP torquer 2, but before i installed it, i did a lot of research, and Patrick G and Predator-Z, guided me with the 228/232, 110+2 lsa, for the exact above reasons, to raise the DCR.
Also, in the process of the research, I was told that for stock heads a +4 would work a little better, since this cam likes >11.0:1 CR.
Predator-Z, did i understand that correctly?
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
FWIW, I had tr224, then went with TSP torquer 2, but before i installed it, i did a lot of research, and Patrick G and Predator-Z, guided me with the 228/232, 110+2 lsa, for the exact above reasons, to raise the DCR.
Also, in the process of the research, I was told that for stock heads a +4 would work a little better, since this cam likes >11.0:1 CR.
Predator-Z, did i understand that correctly?
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
09-21-2006, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jegten
+1
FWIW, I had tr224, then went with TSP torquer 2, but before i installed it, i did a lot of research, and Patrick G and Predator-Z, guided me with the 228/232, 110+2 lsa, for the exact above reasons, to raise the DCR.
Also, in the process of the research, I was told that for stock heads a +4 would work a little better, since this cam likes >11.0:1 CR.
Predator-Z, did i understand that correctly?
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
FWIW, I had tr224, then went with TSP torquer 2, but before i installed it, i did a lot of research, and Patrick G and Predator-Z, guided me with the 228/232, 110+2 lsa, for the exact above reasons, to raise the DCR.
Also, in the process of the research, I was told that for stock heads a +4 would work a little better, since this cam likes >11.0:1 CR.
Predator-Z, did i understand that correctly?
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
To the Poster:The 228/232 110+2 would be a BAD *** street cam, no doubt in my mind!
The nature of this cam would be serious power under the curve/mid-range and combined with the 3.73's you're looking at a killer combo.
09-21-2006, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jegten
+1
FWIW, I had tr224, then went with TSP torquer 2, but before i installed it, i did a lot of research, and Patrick G and Predator-Z, guided me with the 228/232, 110+2 lsa, for the exact above reasons, to raise the DCR.
Also, in the process of the research, I was told that for stock heads a +4 would work a little better, since this cam likes >11.0:1 CR.
Predator-Z, did i understand that correctly?
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
FWIW, I had tr224, then went with TSP torquer 2, but before i installed it, i did a lot of research, and Patrick G and Predator-Z, guided me with the 228/232, 110+2 lsa, for the exact above reasons, to raise the DCR.
Also, in the process of the research, I was told that for stock heads a +4 would work a little better, since this cam likes >11.0:1 CR.
Predator-Z, did i understand that correctly?
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
The +2 is a nice medium.
09-21-2006, 10:15 AM
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ok, what springs are recommended with the 228 cam?? 918's...921's?? Also, I suppose they would have to be swapped out every 20-25,000 miles...?
09-21-2006, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Yes but a +4 has a trade off, it won't rev as high as a +2 and will peak earlier being a little peakier.
The +2 is a nice medium.
The +2 is a nice medium.
Originally Posted by black_z
A cam change doesnt effect the static compression ratio. Your DCR is nowhere near 11:1. SCR is simply swept volume+unswept volume/unswept volume.
this cam is supposed to have a similar power curve as the TR torquer series cam, which is a very strong one.
09-21-2006, 10:47 AM
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+1
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
hope this helps. and, btw, i just got this cam yesterday, so i should be putting it in together with everything else.
Guess there will be a couple more goats with this cam
09-21-2006, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob
What do you know, I have this cam sitting on my desk
Guess there will be a couple more goats with this cam
Guess there will be a couple more goats with this cam
i got mine last night!
he,he
"two more 04 IBM 6spd goats with this cam!"
who does your tuning?
i am learning how to do this, and i go with a cam like this one, no less!! LOL
09-21-2006, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JR HAWK 9
guys, make sure you post up how you like it and your impressions after you get it installed
this i know, i will be tapping in here for help on the tuning!
it took me a little bit to find out about this cam, but the wait was well worth it. now, to work!
09-21-2006, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by black_z
A cam change doesnt effect the static compression ratio. Your DCR is nowhere near 11:1. SCR is simply swept volume+unswept volume/unswept volume.
09-21-2006, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Also guys, just be aware that when a cam has low advance in the grind, it is recommended to degree it to ensure proper install at said ICL (LSA-Advance)