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Old 10-14-2006, 10:36 AM
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Hey guys, I am going to be replacing the lifters on my 98 TA, A4. I figure if i have it down that far i should upgrade the cam. But i don't want to invest in a converter right now. Any suggestions on how big i can go without a stall. Oh yea and it has stock 3.42 gears. Thanks
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I'd stay in the 22x/22x without a verter. It'll sound good but it won't drive that well. Verter is a must for anyone with an A4, Verter and a Cam at the same time would be a good idea, they seem to work like ying and yang, small verter with a huge cam, car will ET poor, huge verter with a small cam and it's over kill... but if you can get them both in the sweet spot you'll have a setup thats killer...
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Well said Mssingkid

Two days ago we fiired up my buddy's LS1 A4 with MS3 and its tuned puts down 377rwhp/351rwtq but hoenstly the car w/o verter feel bad

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Yea i was only thinking of something around 218 or 220. Who makes the MS3? I did a search and dind't find any specs on it.
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Yea i was only thinking of something around 218 or 220. Who makes the MS3? I did a search and dind't find any specs on it.
MS3 AKA Magic Stick 3. TSP makes it... 237/242 .603/.609 on a 112/113/114. MS3,MS4 and the TRAK Cam are about the biggest cams you can run on stock 346 displacement. Tons of power up top, but they tend to lack trq.
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how big you can go??? you can go as big as you want but just know that your idle will be higher so your going to have to cram on the brakes at red lights and also that your powerband will shift up so youll have to really hit it to get into the meat of the power band.
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212 218 114....... at the most 224 224 114
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i went through this same thing about wanting a cam before I put the converter in. To keep it drivable in town you can't put a very big cam in without a converter. i wanted a cam badly before i upgraded my converter. Just save up and do a converter so that you won't be limited on your cam selection because you have a stock converter. if you put a cam in now you will regret not having a big converter. You will want to go big after you put a smaller cam in. it is not that much trouble putting in a cam with the heads on.
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i got a F13(232/232, 595/588, 114) without a verter and it sucks *** down low. i gotta get my vig 3200 in ASAP.
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i really dont wanna do a verter either....but i think its the best route since im doin a cam swap and i got the 3.73's now. plus, theres a guy that lives by me that put a 3500 stall on a stock ls1 and ran 12.8.....nuff said
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Originally Posted by 00slowredz
i really dont wanna do a verter either....but i think its the best route since im doin a cam swap and i got the 3.73's now. plus, theres a guy that lives by me that put a 3500 stall on a stock ls1 and ran 12.8.....nuff said
I went from consistant 13.3's before my stall to 12.8x after. 3500 TCI, i'm sure i could have hit 12.7 but the trans was slipping a little and i dropped my ET and MPH. By far best mod for a A4 car...
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i have a 3500 stall vert and it makes the Firehawk a completly different car. IMO it was the best mod that I have ever done. 3500 stall+Ported Ls6 heads+232/236 cam=Hell of a lot of fun.




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