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Old 10-15-2006, 07:25 PM
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ok im thinking about doing a cam and i cant decide what to get..im gettin a new stall(ss3600) installed and the mods in my sig. i kinda want to keep it a sleeper with manifolds and the cheatr cam but another part of me wants to put on some headers and get a lil bit bigger cam and i need yalls opinion... the cams im thinking about are based on good gasmilage great power under the curve and most importantly driveability...i dont want to kill my car or the tranny. so i just want a lil more power like 350 to the dirt...so all the cam experts help me out..i have axcess to a great tuner and a dyno shop thats local so thats no problem and is a ported oil pump a must when doin a cam..(i see right about 40 psi at idle and about 55-60 drive above 2k) thanx for the help guys. this is what im thinking

cheatr cam...

224/224, .581/.581 114+4 XE-R (Comp cam Lobes) .custom grind.

or the 228R

thanx justin
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I'd recommend going with a G5X1....228/232, still VERY driveable and not totally lopey.
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Originally Posted by slimcracka
cheatr cam...

224/224, .581/.581 114+4 XE-R (Comp cam Lobes) .custom grind.

or the 228R
Get that custom cam ground on a 112 or 110 - you'll really like it
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A 224/224 on a 110 is nice for a more powerful cam with a stock powerband, with a stall, honestly I'd like a little higher RPM's though.
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I used the 224/228 .581/.588 112 for three years as a daily driver cam in my 346 N/A C5. It should work great with the SS3600 converter. What gear are you running? If you decide on a new cam, call Pete at CNC heads in FL or I still have mine that I will sell you. I ran 11.07@123 with it.
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yeah im really tring to stay with the three listed..i want something thats not goin to effect my drivability at all...i love my ac and to just drive im gettin 19.8 mpg with the mods i have now and i dont want to kill that too much..and im running stock 3.23 gears..
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I used to run a 224 cam and then switched to the T- Rex and I love it.
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Default DD cam only a4 help.

Originally Posted by slimcracka
yeah im really tring to stay with the three listed..i want something thats not goin to effect my drivability at all...i love my ac and to just drive im gettin 19.8 mpg with the mods i have now and i dont want to kill that too much..and im running stock 3.23 gears..
I got over 30 mpg on the highway with the above mentioned cam. Driveability should not be a problem with a good tune.
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As a general rule of thumb, it is not advisable to exceed 0 degrees of overlap at .050" when running stock manifolds. Any more overlap than that will start to decrease power as your exhaust starts to contaminate your intake charge from reversion.

As much as I love the narrow LSA cams with excellent exhaust, the wider LSA cams work better with manifolds. The CheaTR cam is ideal for that.
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I am running a 232/236 595 601 114, LS6 heads (PP), Vig 3600, long tubes,true duals, FAST 90/90, and 323 gears... My car is daily driven..
When driving sensible i can still get 19-20 mpg... Consistantly getting 275-300 miles on a tank of fuel..

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Originally Posted by slimcracka
yeah im really tring to stay with the three listed..i want something thats not goin to effect my drivability at all...i love my ac and to just drive im gettin 19.8 mpg with the mods i have now and i dont want to kill that too much..and im running stock 3.23 gears..
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
As a general rule of thumb, it is not advisable to exceed 0 degrees of overlap at .050" when running stock manifolds. Any more overlap than that will start to decrease power as your exhaust starts to contaminate your intake charge from reversion.

As much as I love the narrow LSA cams with excellent exhaust, the wider LSA cams work better with manifolds. The CheaTR cam is ideal for that.
im sorry i should of made my thread a lil clearer with what im tryin to ask.

with the last 2 cams i was planning on doin headers.. but im tryin to deside to or not to get headers and the cams..thanx
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If you can, get headers and run a
228/232, .588/.592 110+2
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
If you can, get headers and run a
228/232, .588/.592 110+2
What would a +4 do to the powerband of that cam? Ive heard the +2 will carry power longer.
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basicaly yes, the +4 would make it more exhaust biased, make it peakier (will not carry the power long after peak)
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I see, my goals are to keep the stock powerband but moved up, I dont much want to spin the motor past 6k. I think a +4 would do nicely unless the +2 has a better "curve".
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6k is peanuts, you need at least 6300 on any decent cam to produce any power.

6300 shifts are not gonna destroy your tranny.
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thanx man and everyone..im getin some headers and then im goin to save for a cam. everyone oppinon is what i wanted and keep the ideas coming..i dono if i said this but the cam i get is goin to be something that wont hurt any bit of my drivability (ac, gas milage, ect.)
thanx everyone
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What about the 233/239 TSP?
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Originally Posted by Rhino79
What about the 233/239 TSP?
Ive been looking at that one myself....anyone got any input?




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